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Condensation problems

We have severe condensation in our 2 bedroom Top Flr flat, a problem we have suffered now for some years. We have involved the block managers who first said we weren't ventilating the flat adequately - we are and then said to change the windows - we have but we still have the damp dripping off the walls even with a dehumidifier. We understand other neighbouring flats have a problem but not as extreme as ours. In addition, the roof of the block needs replacing and we believe this is a cause of the condensation and we have been waiting for the work to be done now for over a year. Question is what responsibility does the Management company have to resolve this problem speedily - can we also suggest the cost of a condensation survey for the block be covered by the service charges for the block? Any help is much appreciated.
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RE: Condensation problems

Hi there

It's not really an answer to your question but to help the problem-
Try a company I have used that (even though it's not cheap) really works and gets rid of condensation- they are called envirovent- they fit fans and various contraptions that really stop the damp and condensation, even if people living there are drying clothes continually and doing all the things that apparently exacerbate internal moisture/ condensation etc.
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RE: Condensation problems

(24-01-2013 10:43 PM)zuzie_poskitt Wrote:  Hi there

It's not really an answer to your question but to help the problem-
Try a company I have used that (even though it's not cheap) really works and gets rid of condensation- they are called envirovent- they fit fans and various contraptions that really stop the damp and condensation, even if people living there are drying clothes continually and doing all the things that apparently exacerbate internal moisture/ condensation etc.

The generic term is a Positive Input Ventilation (PIV) unit - Envirovent are probably the best known but are very expensive. We've put a Nuaire Drimaster in one of our properties - see this thread (post #3): http://www.propertytribes.com/extractor-...#pid86859. The mould hasn't recurred since it went in a year ago so it seems to be doing its job.

(Nick/Vanessa - can we merge this thread with the one at http://www.propertytribes.com/condensati...l#pid86865 which has a duplicate OP?)
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RE: Condensation problems

If its potentially affecting your health I would call in the Enviromental Health Officer ( EHO ) to act as an independent mediator. They will for free give a report and recommendation as to what the problem is and what the remedy is. They can call on specialist advice if needs be. Then the management company will be obliged to carry out the works if they are recommended. If they refuse then the EHO can serve notice on them requiring them to do the said works. If they still refuse they can be taken to court.
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RE: Condensation problems

I had the same problem and it was caused by the poor insulation of the roof, which was built in the 60's and had never been replaced. I hate dealing with management companies and also with other flat owners because the only people who are affected by these issues are those who own top floor flats and others don't want the funds spent on the roof unless it is leaking - they usually only patch up the leaks.

I had my ceilings over-boarded with insulated plaster board and skimmed - this solved the problem and increased the EPC of the flat and it wasn't terribly expensive. The roof was finally replaced and other flat owners tell me that the whole problem went away but I could not continue to let my flat while I was waiting. While I was having the work done I took the opportunity to have some concealed lighting put in which really made the rooms look nice and more appealing to tenants.

You might try calling a meeting of the other flat owners and explaining that the top floor flats will have a low EPC if the roof is not replaced and this will affect the re-sale after 2018,also that you will be claiming on the block insurances for any damage caused to your flat.

I wish you luck this whole issue caused me hours of work and hassle with the management company and other owners.

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RE: Condensation problems

(26-01-2013 12:50 AM)Jonathan Clarke Wrote:  If its potentially affecting your health I would call in the Enviromental Health Officer ( EHO ) to act as an independent mediator. They will for free give a report and recommendation as to what the problem is and what the remedy is. They can call on specialist advice if needs be. Then the management company will be obliged to carry out the works if they are recommended. If they refuse then the EHO can serve notice on them requiring them to do the said works. If they still refuse they can be taken to court.


I would like to do that with a similar problem, but I've been warned if you involve a council in this sort of problem it can end in tears for the landlord. True or not?
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RE: Condensation problems

(27-06-2014 11:40 AM)MartineS Wrote:  
(26-01-2013 12:50 AM)Jonathan Clarke Wrote:  If its potentially affecting your health I would call in the Enviromental Health Officer ( EHO ) to act as an independent mediator. They will for free give a report and recommendation as to what the problem is and what the remedy is. They can call on specialist advice if needs be. Then the management company will be obliged to carry out the works if they are recommended. If they refuse then the EHO can serve notice on them requiring them to do the said works. If they still refuse they can be taken to court.


I would like to do that with a similar problem, but I've been warned if you involve a council in this sort of problem it can end in tears for the landlord. True or not?

Tears in that you might have to put your hand in your pocket I guess but better I think to work with the council and be shown to be legal than have a restless night worrying that you are potentially responsible for causing ill health to a tenant coupled with the threat of legal action hanging over you.

As it happens I`m in a war of words with mine at this very moment regarding a heavy condensation issue. Its a leasehold and they are the freeholder. I`m saying the poorly built structure for which they are responsible is part of the cause. There is a grey area and a crossover of responsibilities here I believe. They just bounce it back to me having given very poor advice. I have tried to resolve it jointly as a partnership but they simply retreat into their cave and shut up shop for fear of litigation.

They guess at some of the advice they give and when I scrutinise it they back peddle furiously. Ive tied them up in knots on this last issue so I have received a stone wall non committal response. I`m like a dog with a bone with them sometimes. You just have to nag nag nag
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RE: Condensation problems

I've got a condensation problem in one of my properties, what would you suggest is the best way to manage it?
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RE: Condensation problems

@Trexy

There are various solutions including Envirovent and Nuaire.

They are all discussed at length >>> here.
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