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  • In the Spotlight

    BoE Chief Economist says property > pensions

    Just found this today and I agree with it 100% from Money week

    In one of my very first editor’s letters for MoneyWeek, I wrote that it made complete sense for anyone with spare cash to forget about pensions and get a buy-to-let flat instead.

    At the time, it did. The equities most people put in their pensions seemed expensive, and pensions themselves were very restricted: you could save much more in them than you can now, but you had to buy an annuity on retirement. At the same time, property was not particularly expensive and came with hordes of lovely tax advantages.

    A large part of the population still think this is the correct way to look at things.

    Andy Haldane (chief economist at the Bank of England) told the Sunday Times this week that, given the structural problems in the UK housing market (he thinks there aren’t enough houses), property probably still makes more sense. Until we build more houses, the high returns to property owners will just keep coming.

    However, for me, the balance has shifted massively over the last 15 years. I’m not convinced about the structural shortage of homes argument (household sizes have barely budged for decades and rents haven’t moved in line with house prices); property is expensive both in terms of purchase price and running costs; and the great tax benefits of property investment are slowly disappearing (the new buy-to-let income tax policy is beginning to bite and there is talk of tax on capital gains on buy-to-let being charged as income).

    At the same time there is (some) value to be found in the equity markets and pension freedom has completely changed the savings equation.

    Think of the benefits of a pension today. You still get tax relief on anything you save at your marginal rate of income tax (so up to 45% tax back). You can save up to £40,000 a year. Once you hit retirement age you can take out 25% of this money (that you saved tax free) entirely tax free, and the rest you can take out as and when you like, subject to your normal rate of income tax. Then anything left over you can leave to your heirs 100% free of inheritance tax (think of this like a family trust).

    And all the while you can make sure you have a fully diversified portfolio that can cost you as little as 0.75% a year if you play your cards right. All this may change (the inheritance bit in particular seems over generous, given how cash strapped the government is). But until it does it seems mad to me for everyone not to take advantage of it.

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    Learn Change and Adapt ?????

    All comments are for casual information purposes only. If you wish to rely on any advice I have given please ensure you obtain independent specialist advice from a third party. No liability is accepted for comments made.

    Merryn has a much better writing style than you or I do dislexic_landlord, but I think her message is the same as ours.

    Times are changing and investors need to change with the times.

    It might not be the exact moment to wholly abandon BTL. And, in fact, that moment may never come.

    But it is sensible to remember the wider world and to, at least, be open to the possibility of investigating the alternatives with as open a mind as possible.

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    I am no good at writeing thats for sure but im quite good at maths

    Im not saying BTL Party is over but its not the game it was Every Landlord needs to rethink where they are going with there investments

    I just see little point putting my own money in a deal where there are shifting sands

    The old ways are dead unless you are going to buy via a Ltd Co or Build to Rent via a Ltd Co

    We are seeing the change now in my area Property is not selling and Landlords are not buying

    I dont personaly know any full time Landlords who are buying But I know a few selling up

    Because of tax  and thats this issue here its all about Tax

    Regards DL



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    Learn Change and Adapt ?????

    All comments are for casual information purposes only. If you wish to rely on any advice I have given please ensure you obtain independent specialist advice from a third party. No liability is accepted for comments made.

    When it comes to saving for retirement, many of us are split on whether property or a pension is the best way to invest, but while both have their merits, new figures from Key (formerly Key Retirement) would suggest that property almost certainly remains a better option.

    Fresh analysis from the independent equity release adviser shows that mortgage free retired homeowners saw their homes increase by almost £1,000 a month over the past six months despite housing market uncertainty.

    Total property wealth owned by over-65s who are mortgage free is at a new record high of £1.118trn with the average homeowners seeing the value of their homes increase by £28bn.

    Full/source article

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