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Dear All,Obviously, this is an emotive topic and emotions have started to run a bit high.Because of that, I think it best to shut the thread down temporarily, so that everyone can walk away and take a breather.I will re-open the thread within the next day or so.My usual advice is, if you don't appreciate someone's input on any social media platform, the best thing to do is mute or block them.Have a pleasant evening all.
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So agree Zem. Good to hear a voice of reason in this sea of bland, snowflake generation leftie nonsence.
There are homes out there for everyone just roll your sleaves up and go get it!!!
OK so you may not be able to live in London to begin with but start somewhere and build off it!
There are still plenty of homes for under 40k in the UK that would be very affordable even on a minimum wage. I bought a very nice little house for 22k three years ago that needed work.
I'm with you on this one - sure you are speaking in general terms, however the system has to work for the majority of scenarios (hence general) - and a bespoke approach / process for corner cases - else it fails everyone which is the current state.
Immigration can be good - however multiculturalism in the UK has generally failed - variety of reasons - topic for another day.
In the UK there is a mindset that the Govt should provide housing, education, food, opportunities, utilities, protection, income........ now they are being expected to bring ones children up too - with that sort of mentality parents / people are no longer accountable for their own decisions, own actions - they simply pass the buck to the Govt (its always someone else to blame mindset) - zero aspirations, zero commitment to a job, career, generally lazy and depressed. Seems like their main contribution is to procreate. No respect for people, elders, police, teachers - no repuccusiors for breaking the law. With that sort of mindset no wonder that societies are being stressed beyond breaking point as this simply can't be sustained for yet another failed generation.
The welfare system should be there as a safety net - unfortunately it has been adopted by a growing number as the norm, and its not the consumers of the system that are the only issue, its the people that run the system too - so yes, Govt has to accountable here - within a democracy, the Govt is the people.
The world is a tough place - we in the UK live in a bubble, a very cushtie one - people need a reality check and wake up.
The benefits system was created and maintained by Govt, and implemented at ground level (mostly) by the various councils.
It is those 2 groups above that decide who can have what, not the person themselves. I could say I'd like a gold bar every month please. But if the option wasn't there and 'sorry, that's not possible' was said, then the mindset you mention in detail would not exist. The media love blaming the end user (the benefit seeker) but don't question how the benefit was introduced, by who, when, and at what ongoing cost to society?
I'm still trying to work out how far and long this experiment will go on for? The Cons can blame Labour, but other than the 'bedroom tax' and cutting back the numbers of the people on the ground who enforce their system, they haven't done much to change the mindset mentioned this decade.