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  • Tenant Referencing

    Reference

    I am no lawyer but I suspect it is Legal.

    It is not a charge to the tenant. It is a charge to the Landlord or Agent.

    Is there an answer. Yes do not charge!


    Fergus Wilson
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    My thought Fergus, however it is going to cause hardship to some tenants as they will be unable to move because of these fees. I certainly will not be paying it and I will be still housing the tenant. I am going to ensure I get this publicised as much as possible as I an sure they will not be informing the tenants of this charge before they move in.
    I know Andrew Gold solicitors often comment on the site but I don't know how to tag them in for a comment
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    [Image: New-logo2.png] Manchester based investor. I buy, sell, renovate and rent investment property in East/North Manchester Wink email: mike@brentwoodinvestments.co.uk Call: 0161 681 3724

    If you are still going to take them what is the point of the reference?

    The charge will be passed on to the tenant who will be expected to pay it up front. No doubt some rider will be added to cover Rochdale's charge if a Rochdale Housing tenant.

    Down south Councils do not have lots of empty houses to fill. There is a distinct shortage.

    Consequently no Council down south is going to prevent a Council tenant moving into the Private Sector and freeing up a much needed space.

    It seems that Rochdale by making such a charge is trying to prevent the tenant from moving!

    It is the old North South divide. Up North there is an abundance of houses available and down south a draught!

    Fergus Wilson
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    We have a guarantor, bank statements and ID. I am sometimes happy to go with a gut feeling when the previous landlord is being a sh*t.
    As you say this is freeing up a house owned by a social landlord that I am sure is in demand regardless of its geographical area.
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    [Image: New-logo2.png] Manchester based investor. I buy, sell, renovate and rent investment property in East/North Manchester Wink email: mike@brentwoodinvestments.co.uk Call: 0161 681 3724

    Social Housing is subsidised by the tax payer. It seems to me that all tenants that can afford to pay the rent should be in the Private Sector and the Social Sector should be entirely those on benefits.

    That would reduce the bill for the tax payer.

    Those in social housing that do not receive HB should be encouraged to move out into the Private Sector.

    There will be some in the Private Sector receiving HB but a declining number it would seem

    Social Housing is for those who NEED social housing and not for those who want it cheap at the tax payers expense.

    Charging for a reference, which will be passed onto the tenant, is hardly helping tenants to exit social housing.

    Rochdale has insufficient tenants but down south there are too many!

    Fergus Wilson
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    ARLA inform me it is not illegal however they do consider it slightly immoral. I have contacted the local councillors who are on the board of RBH. I have also contacted the Manchester Evening News, The Rochdale Observer, Lettings Today magazine, The Negotiator magazine, the local MPs for that area and several MPs of the Housing committee. Any other suggestions?
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    [Image: New-logo2.png] Manchester based investor. I buy, sell, renovate and rent investment property in East/North Manchester Wink email: mike@brentwoodinvestments.co.uk Call: 0161 681 3724


    No one is going to get too excited until after the general election. The Political Parties are more intent on kicking hell out of each other and getting elected.

    ARLA are absolutely correct it is not illegal to charge. There is also no obligation for a Landlord to provide a reference.

    Best of L:uck


    Fergus Wilson
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    Please see the reply below. I feel that this is only a partial victory as firstly I have accepted the tenant as they had a gaurentor and secondly which I will be still requesting is that this charge is eithier dropped or the charge is made proportionate to the work involved and their incoming tenants are informed of the charge.
    Dear Mr Brown
    Thank you for your enquiry.

    It is RBH’s standard practice to charge private landlords for the provision of a detailed reference, just as you charge incoming tenants for you to undertake credit checks and obtain references on their behalf. This has been RBH practice since 2002 following on from the approach adopted by Rochdale Council’s Housing Department at that time. It does not impact on the adverts we place on Rightmove for homes which we are advertising to let.

    However, your enquiry has prompted us to consider reviewing this practice, and this is something that will now take place. Given the circumstances of this case, we will waive the charge on the reference check on this occasion. Please could you provide details of the person you need the reference for and I will get back to you with the details shortly.

    Kind regards

    Jon Longden
    Head of Access and Support, Customer Access, Rochdale Boroughwide Housing
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    [Image: New-logo2.png] Manchester based investor. I buy, sell, renovate and rent investment property in East/North Manchester Wink email: mike@brentwoodinvestments.co.uk Call: 0161 681 3724