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  • Landlords in Distress

    Samuel Leeds: my story of partnering with him

    It’s like looking around Willy Wonka’s chocolate factory ! Trouble is the only person that is getting rich is Samuel Wonka, the hapless umpa lumpa’s aren’t even on minimum wage, unless bullishit and bravado are legal tender.

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    Paul as it's my son's birthday I don't have time to reply, as I have better things to do then write the real story behind what you think is evidence of me making money.

    So to be clear and unmasking, I will post a screen shoot of my bank statement showing all that money I made ... it won't take long for people so see the truth as it's a very small screen shot...

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    As you can see i am rolling in it. REALITY.... THE £1000 this deposited is because I had to beg for it as i was skint.





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    Hi Paul

    Ive finally got to sit down to reply as I only go to read your essay later one night after a very long drive back from Devon.

    The day after reading your comments afters a bit of thought about it two saying popped in to my head, “A little knowledge is a dangerous thing”, “little knowledge comes big assumptions”.

    Think of it like an iceberg, you only see the top of the ice berg above the water which is properly only about 20% of the situation, so 80% of the ice berg is under water and out of sight.

    At best you only know 20-25% of the situation/s which means you don’t know enough information to make fair or accurate comments.

    It's like me making judging your financial achievements form the videos that you did on a tour around the two house your were renovating. I know nothing of your mortgages, money and how you’ve moved them around to get the house finished and running 

    And as for your comment about J, that illustrates your lack of knowledge of the subject you are commenting on.

    If the videos you are refer to are the ones that i am thinking of then, perspective, and therefore understanding, can be manipulated.

    Having paid just over 4k being about 10k ish in the hole to the man and being threatened with removal from the course because I asked apparently “too many questions” and “being the most demanding partner” about the process and how the course/selling would happen tends to have a impact when a camera shoved in your face with a leading question to boot. It was all for his benefit so he can us and it for marketing - its a way of distorting reality to gain sales.

    i see you’ve chosen not to mention the meeting where we stood at the back of the room and Samuel was boasting about his new Apple watch that he had just bought and i said to you, "he’s buying watches and I can’t make ends meet as he’s keeping 100% of my sales".

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    I think we should thank Paul for the screenshots and video as they corroborate your story, as they are time stamped with dates.

    Like any newcomer fresh of a course, you were full of hope an optimism around Sept/October 2017.

    It is worth noting that most trainers in any genre of training record delegate testimonials at this emotive and high energy time when people are revved up with thoughts that they are going to achieve all that was promised in the marketing.

    Then reality started to set in.

    Like others who originally sang Samuel Leeds praises on this thread, you then had the realisation that maybe you were not so satisfied after all.

    In April 2018, Kryan then contacted the moderator asking for his favourable comments to be removed, as he no longer endorsed Samuel Leeds.  This is all documented on the other Samuel Leeds thread.

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    Firstly, I’m sorry to hear of your situation. I’ve been following Samuel Leeds for a while and watching what he gets up to.

    That website is awful, lots of spelling mistakes and very American. I suspect he got a cheap designer from one of the gig economy websites to create it for $20.

    As for your refund, having read your story and your posts, I’m sorry to say I don’t think you have a claim at all. It sounds like Samuel has delivered on the key points of the contract, although these don’t meet your expectations and you should claim, I am not sure you would get very far and I think it would be a long battle - I would value your own time and just focus on moving forward with your own business, which having found and sold that number of properties, it sounds like you’ve got a great little business  

    I’m also confused about your contract, did you pay Samuel the course fee, or did you arrange to cover the course fee with the leads you gave him? - if it’s the latter, then again, I would check the terms of that particular arrangement and see whether he followed the agreed payment contract.

    I wish you the best of luck!


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    Hi Kyran, would you be the same Kyran that was defending Samuel on the SL thread about 12 months ago ?? Samuel gave you a mention on his “ how to buy houses far away “ YouTube video, he claimed you were making 5k per month sourcing properties and his secretary confirmed it ??

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    Yes Jim, it is the same Kryan.

    Kyran later became disappointed with the training and partnership and contacted the moderator and asked for all his favourable comments about Samuel to be removed.  As you can see, he is now at loggerheads with Samuel over various issues.

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    Hi jim

    Yes thats thats me, Vanessa, beat me to it and had said what need to be said, expect the bit about the 5k, thats wrong, its over infected statement it was around £3,400 ish is also a bit miss leading to state that i made it to as,i made that in sales that was reduced amount actually went towards paying off the course cost which it had been it self inflated as i could not pay for the course all up front. also that £3,400 was only my 50% of the sales fee. so in reality samuel/BLRH made twice that that month.

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    When hes asking people on the videos whos making money and they say yes.... what does that mean exactly?

    does it mean sales are being made irrelevant of the profit/financial freedom?

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