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  • In the Spotlight

    View the letter that the Judicial Review lawyers sent to HMRC

    Well done to Steve Bolton, Chris Cooper and others who have instigated this legal process. It is in everyone's interest to make sure that this is shared as much as possible. then when it comes down to the raising the additional funds required to take it further lets not let it be down to the 739 who contributed in the first place when here are over 1.4 million landlords many of whom will benefit should this be a success.
    The instigators of this case requires EVERYONES support and a little cash to keep this going
    Do we know how much will be required for the next stage of the battle?
    When will fundraising start? I cant see why we wont get our day in court at least and fundraising should start as soon as possible
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    [Image: New-logo2.png] Manchester based investor. I buy, sell, renovate and rent investment property in East/North Manchester Wink email: mike@brentwoodinvestments.co.uk Call: 0161 681 3724


    Yes, well done Steve Bolton, Chris Cooper and all who have contributed, and I'm happy to contribute further to continue the fight.

    So according to the government, these changes are to help First Time Buyers and Home Owners, but the only thing it's going to achieve is the "non-incorporated" landlords will incorporate or sell, and those properties are going to be bought by other landlords under limited companies (because not all tenants are in a position or even want to buy).

    That's a bit stupid isn't it? It would be better if they change their alleged reason for these changes, because clearly it's not going to help FTB, it's just going to change ownership of property from individuals to ltd. co.s, ruin some people, and make other people/corporations rich.
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    Great News Fingers crossed
    I have been back to Howden's Joinery today and I have shown the staff there the info outlining the facts
    They knew nothing about any of this
    Howden's is a Major supplier to Landlords and investors
    we need to get this sort of firm on board
    they will have deep pockets
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    Learn Change and Adapt ?????

    All comments are for casual information purposes only. If you wish to rely on any advice I have given please ensure you obtain independent specialist advice from a third party. No liability is accepted for comments made.

    It is possible that the judicial review process is simply a process that makes people think the government is fair by allowing for a review. When in fact the answer is already decided.

    Just like the government created a financial ombudsmen who 'give people hope that there is someone to protect them' with their fancy logo and website.

    But when it comes down to it the ombudsmen rarely do anything.

    This also reminds me of how you can 'appeal' a court sentencing.

    This appeal process makes people think that the government is fair by even allowing for an appeal! When in reality 99% get rejected. Its a clever system

    Heres a fun story I can image it now:

    Page 1: Government receives letter from Steve etc

    Government Guy 1 "Oh no! we got a letter complaining about taxing the landlords, what do we do boss!?"

    Government Guy 2 "HAHA Oh man, thats mildly irritating, but not to worry they won't win after all, we are the government"

    Government Guy 1 "Oh yeh haha, I forgot! Theres literally nothing they could do if we still said no, hohoho, ah but wait, won't people think were mean and not vote for us for doing this?"

    Government Guy 2 "Well, everyone hates landlords anyway so doing this will actually be good for us! I know we need landlords anyway otherwise they'll be lots of homeless people after this, but hey money is more important a and we need lots of it because we have to pay for the Syrian refugees, send more aid to India and we need to house some more terrorist hate preachers (they have human rights too Sad poor things, anyway the next government can deal with all the homeless anyway not our problem hohoho"

    Government Guy 1 "hoho your so smart, by the way, hows indias space program going I wonder? Anyway but Im a little worried we might not get some of the landlords votes in the future, we should still at least let them have their little review and make them think the system is fair"

    Government Guy 2 "yes yes i agree, Ah well so be it, lets have the review, make them think we are taking the review seriously but remember to tell the judges to reject it or they wont get their bonuses"

    Government Guy 1 "ok great, so what shall we do now?"

    Government Guy 2 "Well I just got a massive bribe from a large property developer who's keen to wipe out the small landlords, shall we go to a strip club?"

    Government Guy1 "Yeeee Lets go!"

    Government Guy 2 "Any plans tomorrow?"

    Government Guy 2 "Same as usual, whatever Rothschilds tell us to do"
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    I work in government and while I understand your cynicism, I promise you it's not like that at all. Civil servants give impartial advice, though Ministers aren't necessarily going to agree with it - it's their decision at the end of the day. And by the way lots of us are women and while I'm not saying all of us would be averse to a Full Monty entertainment night, I am certainly not up for bribery! Everything we do is subject to scrutiny - and don't forget there are other options open even if this particular one doesn't get the desired answer. There's the FOI Act and who knows, maybe even the European Court of Human Rights. The battle is on!

    I don't work for HMRC or Treasury by the way.
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    Sorry for my silly story, i feel bad now, you seem nice Sad gretablue
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    (05-02-2016 12:30 AM)Ignatius Lord Wrote:  Sorry for my silly story, i feel bad now, you seem nice Sad gretablue

    I liked your story - and despite Gretablues experience of the system - I wouldn't be surprised if your story wasn't closer to the truth behind closed doors in the upper circle.

    Let's face it - clause 24 is "supposed" to make a level playing field for first time buyers and landlords. But we all know that's not true - so what is the real reason. Some people are even saying it's just because G.O doesn't like landlords!
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