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  • Buy-to-Let

    2 levels of landlord association membership?

    I attended  a Landlord meeting last night and the Council sent two Officers to show Landlords in Newcastle the new Additional Licence

    The council showed the new licence fees and the new licence will not attract a discount if the Landlord is an NLA member  as it has done in the past

    The council say that research showed on the old Selective Licence that discounts were awarded to Rouge landlords who joined the NLA only to get a discount

    I have said for some time that the RLA and NLA need to change

    I feel there should be two levels of NLA and RLA membership

    My own proposal is a member of the Public should be allowed to be an associate member But if they wanted to be a full member mandatory training should be needed and full disclosure ie Criminal Records check  and show that the Landlord was a fit and proper person to be a Full Member

    Newcastle City Council have shown that being a member counts for nothing and it only gives the rouge landlord a place to hide to get a discount.

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    Learn Change and Adapt ?????

    All comments are for casual information purposes only. If you wish to rely on any advice I have given please ensure you obtain independent specialist advice from a third party. No liability is accepted for comments made.

    Hi Disllexic

    What do you think of creating a quality mark which Landlords can apply for by showing they operate good systems and maintain their properties to agreed levels?  This would also allow the NLA and/or RLA to show that they are serious about being a quality Association rather than simply collecting fees.

    Regards Nigel


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    Nigel Reynolds FCCA CMgr FCMI

    Property Tax Specialist

    Reynolds and Co

    http://www.reynoldsandco.co.uk

    Good Morning Nigel

    I think anything which makes Landlords more professional is a good thing

    Last nights meeting was very interesting the Council were very honest about their findings

    One officer said and I quote "Just because a Landlord has a well run Business doesn't make them a good Landlord"

    I found that an odd comment

    The NLA and RLA and others need to come together and move the bar up to become a Full Member

    The Logo looks nice on a Business card but from what I could see the Council are not impressed with the fact a Landlord is a member

    Personally I would like to see a Landlord Licence, not a property licence

    I think that alone would show who really wants to be a landlord

    We do need some sort of kite mark and some benchmark in the PRS

    If we don't look after our own sector Govt will just bring in more regulations and more Licences

    Its better we lead not follow

    I put my own views to the Council Officers about every Landlord having a Licence just like a Taxi Driver and I was pleased with the response

    They agreed it would go a long way to sort out who really wants to be a Landlord and If a Landlord did not want a personal Licence they could not manage the property  so it would have to be given to a Agent who had a licence

    We are going to see some major changes in the future

    The Councils are talking to each other and looking at what each council is doing better we work with them.

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    Learn Change and Adapt ?????

    All comments are for casual information purposes only. If you wish to rely on any advice I have given please ensure you obtain independent specialist advice from a third party. No liability is accepted for comments made.

    Hi Dislexic 

    I would love to see you start a new post about the 10 rules/things which you think can help make a LL more professional. 

    Keep up the good work.
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    I will give that one some thought

    I think the first one is professional Landlord is some one who thinks they are a professional

    It's a mind set to do a better job and understand what you're doing and to have a quest to learn more to make you a better Landlord

    Keeping up to date is vital

    Thanks DL

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    Learn Change and Adapt ?????

    All comments are for casual information purposes only. If you wish to rely on any advice I have given please ensure you obtain independent specialist advice from a third party. No liability is accepted for comments made.

    The councils aren't really the ones to be lecturing the majority of LL's (which are actually good) on what constitutes a good LL though, are they?

    Anyone who's read any of JC's dealings with his council will see they are inept at best.

    I do applaud you DL for sitting through listening to their ramblings. Did they actually listen to anything you had to say or was it just one-way traffic?

    Unfortunately DL, there's not one sector I've heard of that feels it needs any more regulating by Govt. That is what they do as they do nothing else - they just make more laws/rules. I dread to think how many rules there are in the UK, tens of thousands perhaps? Each one of those has been devised by someone that thinks they know better than anyone else.

    The problem with councils is they're the next rung down from Govt. A lot of people that have 'been on a training course' but have no actual real-life time in the trenches.

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    The problem I can see is we do have some very bad Landlords & Criminal Landlords too

    So the Council have to bring in controls

    Of course its a minority again and the Majority have to pay the price

    The council can only use the law as its handed down to them from Govt

    I think our arguments should be directed to the Government

    We have to work with Councils but we need to be involved with the Govt and only a strong Landlord associations can do this task on behalf of us all 

    We see landlord apathy I saw it last night with my own eyes 

    we had around 100 landlords at the meeting but over 15000 will be effected

    Some Landlords just are not interested

    I bleat on about professional standards all the time

    we deserve what we get due to apathy





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    Learn Change and Adapt ?????

    All comments are for casual information purposes only. If you wish to rely on any advice I have given please ensure you obtain independent specialist advice from a third party. No liability is accepted for comments made.

    But really DL, 15000 properties may be affected but that won’t be a similar number of landlords, i’d expect local letting agents to have attended the event you mention and the more serious portfolio landlords, much better to see how many properties those that attended manage.

    Landlords will in time be registered/licenced and their property inspected ( not all initially but random sample inspected and decision made wether to inspect rest depending on outcome)

    The landlord associations have been from the start set up from the start to be in a position to take on some sort of role and it’ll create very lucrative businesses if they do, but then it becomes a conflict of interest against their work for me as a member.

    I’m meeting my local councils shadow for housing  and community this afternoon for a walk round our selective licensing area, she’s new to the job and politics in general, should be interesting.
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    I have to say I did nor see any agents there and I do know quite a few

    what is interesting was I visited a number of agents last week when the Licence was announced

    and not one member of staff knew anything about it

    I would have thought property managers would be up to speed but sadly not

    and one of them was a major Agent on the high st

    again is apathy 

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    Learn Change and Adapt ?????

    All comments are for casual information purposes only. If you wish to rely on any advice I have given please ensure you obtain independent specialist advice from a third party. No liability is accepted for comments made.

    There are already two tiers of membership - in that accreditation is separate from membership - is the Newcastle scheme going to still provide a discount for accredited landlords ( from a range of accreditation schemes)?
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    DISCLAIMER just my personal opinion - for legal advice consult a qualified professional grown-up.

    No they are not giving any discounts to any members of the NLA

    I think its quite a slap in the face for the NLA and it should wake them up to go that bit further

    with membership and training and vetting

    The RLA has done a lot of work on the Licence But from what I can see NLA has done very little


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    Learn Change and Adapt ?????

    All comments are for casual information purposes only. If you wish to rely on any advice I have given please ensure you obtain independent specialist advice from a third party. No liability is accepted for comments made.