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  • Buy-to-Let

    Family straw poll - rent control vote winner?

    I was out at a Family Birthday last night and we all sat around after the meal drinking and having a general chat

    There was 12 of us all different ages and different backgrounds - some were home owners some were tenants, especially the younger ones

    I brought up the subject of rent control and should it be used ?

    I asked for a show of hands of the ones who favoured rent control and ALL of them were !

    Now this got me thinking and I tried to give a good reason why I thought it was a bad idea ...

    But I found I could not come up with a firm argument to try and change the minds of my family

    I know Twelve family members is a tiny sample and it probably means nothing

    But the fact was there - I believe strongly if a Major party announced rent control it would be a vote winner

    I am sure most here would not welcome Rent Control, but as we know our opinion counts for little

    Do you think its a Vote winner and if you had a family get together how do you think your family would vote ?

    When you think of this, try and put yourself in the seat of the general public not a Landlord, I think most would support Rent Control or caps

    And If it were to happen how would you cope as a Landlord ?

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    Learn Change and Adapt ?????

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    Depends what the raise is set to. If it's inflation that's ok because most rents don't rise by inflation. If it's less than inflation then that'll be time to exit.

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    I can see your point How would Rent Control be set

    Long ago when I first started we had a Fair Rent Officer in the council office who set rents

    Today the Govt has Live Data from the LHA register so it could find a level quite easily

    The point you made about rent increases used to happen I think a Landlord got a rent increase every two years

    I personalty dont fear Rent Control as rents are not high in the North East rents now are around LHA levels



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    Learn Change and Adapt ?????

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    LHA rates are no good for London, we raised the rent for our last LHA tenant because the LHA rate was so low (£190pcm too low in case you're wondering) and he moved on, which was a miracle as he had been bidding on LA property for four years and getting no where, suddenly, with the prospect of eviction looming due to rent arrears, they found him a place, just like that. The motto of this story is never believe a word that the lying staff at any LA tell you.

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    I find LA for strange anyway

    Newcastle City Council on one hand support the Landlord offering there services to vet a tenant ect and run a large Landlord show once a year for free

    on the other hand there environmental health dept want to licence every house for £750

    My Gutt feeling is as More Large Landlords come to the market and as more Councils build  we will see a change in the market

    If rents were set for the same level for Councils Housing associations and the PRS there would be no need for a tenant to move because a PRS rent was higher then the rest

    I know LHA rates in the NE are not a great deal higher than Council rents

    I know the south will be different in that regard but the likes of the London Mayor would welcome rent control if it was brought in over say 5 years rent freeze and then an introduction of a fair rent

    The has to be a PRS but I feel it will be regulated more and more including rent control  Its just the rate to argue over


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    Learn Change and Adapt ?????

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    Interesting.  The LHA for one of my 3 beds in a London Borough is also exactly £190 less than the tenants are paying. ie £1210 vs £1400.  I say paying, they are currently over £4000 in arrears.  If I ever get them out and refresh the property it could be more like £1600, but it won't be, because I will be selling not reletting after the miserable experience of this shower of *****.  No idea where they will go though if they don't change area.

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    We don't do LHA or Benefit tenants any more, they're just not worth the aggravation.

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    The answers are likely to be dependent on how the question is asked -

    Would you support rent control if annual rents were limited to 5% of the property value?

    Would you support rent control if the number of rental properties available reduced by 80%?

    Would you support rent control if increases were limited to CPI?

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    The general public would also be in favour of capital punishment!

    as the referendum showed asking the public on almost anything is not a good idea as they largely don’t understand the implications behind the headline “benefit”

    we elect political parties to make complex decisions on the general public’s behalf - that is of course how it is supposed to work. Smile

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    **Brexit Tangent Shield Up**

    The people aren't thick, the people are sovereign.

    It's the politicians who have f**ked  Brexit up and failed to carry out a simple instruction.

    **Brexit Tangent Shield Down**

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    The market finds its own level at the end of the day

    Rent controls like all other controls  are worked around  - often legally often illegally

    Market forces determine rent levels

    Demand exceeds supply rents go up

    Supply exceeds demand rents go down


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    Jonathan Clarke. http://www.buytoletmk.com