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Looking at this property for potential 6 bed HMO. Presently 4 bed semi.
Bedroom next to bathroom is single bedroom. Comments on layout, would you go for greater than 6 bed ? what is best layout?, comments welcome. Not article 4 area, only ground and first floor. Could go for 6 bed first, then later apply for more beds in loft?
Please be kind
To increase the number above six would require planning permission for a change of use. Depending on the area, it may also need licensing. If it is in Wales, additional registration / licensing rules apply.
Without knowing the room sizes, existing fire precautions and facilities, it is difficult to offer further advice. It would normally be advisable to have a separate toilet cublicle with wash hand basin in a six bed HMO.
Richard Tacagni MCIEH CEnvH
London Property Licensing
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Thanks for your reply. Smallest room next to upstairs anthropometric is 3.2M x 2.6M
Intelnd to put ensuites in 2 new beds and also in upstairs front large bedroom
Great idea about separate look. As 2 floors and 6 bed don't PP or license
Is this the current layout, or your planned layout?
Presumably your plan is to use the dining room and lounge as bedrooms 5 and 6?
I would have placed the downstairs shower room directly beneath the upstairs bathroom - that way it links nicely with the upstairs soil stack/drain, and you don't have to walk through the kitchen to take a shower.
Great to hear from you Rassie
Plans are for as existing. Dining and lounge will be new bedrooms with ensuite . Will try and keep pipe work and drainage above each other as possible. Don't know what extra drainage would entail.
Hi. I think you might have a bathroom problem. If you want to create a 'good' HMO, and if you are seeking professionals, then 2 bathrooms is an absolute minimum, preferably with at least one additional toilet facility. 4 people trying to use the upstairs bathroom at roughly the same time will be a big problem, I would say.
The position of the shower room isn't good. Presumably the dining room and the lounge will be converted into bedrooms, but those tenants (plus those from upstairs who can't get into the main bathroom) will not enjoy traipsing through the breakfast room and the kitchen clutching their towels.
I might consider trying to create a new bathroom in the front half of the breakfast room. The remaining part of the breakfast room might be big enough for a dining table and/or a TV? I would then turn the shower room into a utility room which would free up space in the kitchen if you were able to move some appliances in there.
Be aware that if you go for the loft conversion you will need to squeeze in a couple of bedrooms to make it worthwhile financially and definately another bathroom, and you will have a whole host of extra fire precautions to deal with, including fire doors on every room (not just the new ones in the loft space)
Just my initial thoughts without knowing your budget or the scope for an extension etc.
Hi John Taylor,
Lounge and dining room would be new bedrooms, each with own ensuite
I woud not touch HMO with a barge pole at present
Better keep it a family house and see what legislation brings
Its only a matter of time
Learn Change and Adapt ?????
Wise comment! But I suspect it will go wasted! :-( :-( Oh well ...!!!
a 6 bed hmo with en-suite for each room, would require 6 x 10sqm rooms + additional room approx 1.5 sqm for the en-suite, and 9sqm for the kitchen,
your house looks like it can accommodation 7 rooms en-suite rooms for which you requires 4 parking spaces.
A 3 bed dwelling has 3 car parking spaces, how many car parking spaces does a 4 bed dwelling have in your area if its 4 then this satisfies highways.