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  • Property Management

    Glass door in BTL property - safety concerns

    Hi,

    I have attached a picture of a front door to a property that I let out.

    The tenant is asking me to change it for something more solid looking and no glass for safety and security reasons.

    His argument is that although this was the door when he viewed the property he wants it changed because they are now having a baby and he feels that it is not secure enough.

    What are my legal obligations in this case? As you can see the door is old and made mainly of glass.

    The other option that I can think of is to blank off the glass with MDF panelling and repaint. Which is still extra cost that I really don't want incur.

    Your thoughts and advice would be appreciated.

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    Check with a glazier what the door comprises. If it's already laminated or safety glass it'll be kite marked in which case door complies with safety standards already. Any glass below 1800 from floor must be safety glass.

    If it complies, reassurance is perhaps all your tenant needs to hear. Otherwise, I would work something out to keep t happy.

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    The RLA have a Guide to Safety Glazing. 

    If you cannot see that the glass in your door has a safety rating on it, I would suggest you replace it.

    Your tenant's health and wellbeing should be your first priority here imho, so if I were in your shoes, I would replace it.

    Imagine how you would feel if you got a call that the tenant's child had falling through the glass and been injured!  A new front door is a small price to pay for peace of mind and knowing that your rental property is safe, not to mention that it is tax deductible and will also improve the appearance of the front of the property.

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    The glass in a door is probably as safe as in a window. For security some bars would achieve the same?

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    My suggestion with this regard is definitely to have an expert provide you with their opinion, especially with a matter of health and safety and fire safety. I agree with Vanessa here for sure - prioritise the tenant's safety and you can't go wrong.

    You can have a specialist health and safety firm provide you with a Fire Risk Assessment.

    Hope this helps.

    Rob

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    You could look at installing security film on the glass which would make it safer, but it might be worth thinking about the future performance of the property too...a nice front door makes a great first impression on prospective tenants, helps the street look a little better, and probably deters burglars (a new multi point locking door is harder to get through than something that isn't). Multi point doors should lower your insurance premium.

    They will also improve the energy efficiency of the property.

    So, we see new front doors as investments in the security of your asset, both the physical security of it, and in helping attract better tenants who will treat the property with more respect, lower your maintenance costs and so on.

    Doing something nice for the tenants will likely also be appreciated...you could also tie them into a longer fixed term by saying that the cost of changing the door is substantial so they would need to sign for an extension to the fixed period...that would eliminate risk of voids.

    Investing in the property also may help justify small rent increases...for instance putting the rent up by £25 at some point is another £300 per year...the cost of the door would be paid off in a couple of years just from that.

    Best,

    Guy

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    Depends upon the area and crime rate.

    Generally I never have main entrance door with glass in as it poses a security risk what ever the safety rating of the glass. put in a new door and remember its the hardware that is important as well for security.

    This way you will have piece of mind for years and tenants will feel safer. Going the whole hog you can get extra strong glass that will not break that easily.

    In fact i have similar it fitted to my car, being street parked, and when some try to throw a brick thought the window it just bounced back and hit the thief in the face. He won;t try that again in a rush.

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    I know of a case of someone throwing a stone at a toughened window and getting hit in the face when it bounced back. Even had the cheek to complain.
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    Thank you all for all your advice.

    I decided to cover the glass existing door with MDF and repaint it. It looks better then a new door and more importantly a lot safer.

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    Out of interest, did you have to inform your insurer about the new composition of the door?

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    Hi SBS Ltd,

    Sorry for the late response. No I didn't tell them. They never asked the composition of the door when they originally quoted me so I didn't think to tell them.

    Should I?

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