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  • Legal FAQs

    HHSRS requirement for heating from gas fires

    I have individual wall gas fires which I imagine is fairly cheap to run. The council is suggesting central heating, but also electric storage heaters.

    Central heating aside, surely the gas fires are better than storage heaters in terms of cost to run as they will put out the same amount of heat?

    Is there much point in challenging them ?

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    I don't know the answer, but I wonder if it's because most gas heaters aren't thermostatically controlled?

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    The council can insist on efficient heating. If you think that wall gas fires are more efficient then you will need show that. However, they almost certainly are not.

    It’s not about the amount of heat put out but the cost of that heat. Storage heaters should be cheaper as they get their heat on a cheaper tariff.

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    David Smith
    Landlord & Tenant Solicitor
    Anthony Gold Solicitors

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    All opinions are my own and do not reflect those of my firm. No comment made should be taken as legal advice and you should consult a solicitor or other legal professional for advice on your specific situation.

    they're not more efficient, but Im assuming because its gas they're cheaper to run which is the main point that the council uses.

    Maybe i'm wrong, but i assumed the costs would be lower

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    You can get gas fires with remote controls that give you timers/programmers/thermostats. e.g. https://www.stovax.com/fires/gas-fires/c...gas-fires/

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    THANKS...didnt know but the site just shows coal/log effect which throw out little heat.  can these be used for ordinary gas fires?

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    https://www.stovax.com/stove-fire/riva2-...as-stoves/ will work with the remote.

    A quick google shows some that claim to be universal but I would get my Gas Safe Installer to provide them as it will be him who is putting his name to safety.

    My parents have a gas fire with remote timer/thermostat which is extremely good and easily heats a 5m x 5m room and if the door is left open does a fairly good job warming the room next door which is a bit bigger. I'll try to remember to find out what make they have.

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    Each gas fire will also need to be checked and recorded as such on the Gas Safety Certificate. For properties we have where we just have GFCH compared to ones where we have GFCH plus a gas hob etc, it is more expensive on the contract for each additional gas appliance. If just one goes wrong then that is your Gas safety not passed for the whole property. Haven't a clue about what is more efficient but I've seen other threads say that properties that put in storage heaters fell foul of EPC ratings and were downgraded so that is something else to check if you are borderline on the required EPC standard.

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    I am pretty sure gas fires are far cheaper to run than any electric alternative as well as more effective eg around 4 Kw output on highest setting.

    If Council are going to insist on Storage Heaters OP may as well bite bullet and install GCH - as modern Storage Heaters cost hundreds each and heat output is usually not at times of day suitable for occupants - hence often supplementary heaters required to top up.

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