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  • Property-a-holics

    Is it just me...? Trouble holding onto trades



    ...... that finds it impossible to find reliable tradesmen/builders? Just when you think you've found someone that's reliable and reasonable with their prices they let you down.

    Finding a good builder/tradesman is surprisingly difficult. They all (99%) think it's ok to tell you they will turn up on a certain day and then not turn up without letting you know. They think it's normal to make false promises. They expect you to contact them and then put up with their BS as to why they didn't make it.

    They then expect you to be grateful that they actually turned up only a week late. What a sorry state of affairs. There must be a total lack of competition in the construction industry. Either that or builders/tradesmen just couldn't care less about providing a good service.

    Estate agents are usually at the top of the list of distrusted professions but if you ask me, builders/tradesmen should be top of the league by some distance.

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    I have been in this business and I can confirm every thing you say 

    I could tell some great stories


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    Learn Change and Adapt ?????

    All comments are for casual information purposes only. If you wish to rely on any advice I have given please ensure you obtain independent specialist advice from a third party. No liability is accepted for comments made.

    Hi there

    Yes - it's frustrating. As they say, you have to break a lot of rocks before you find the diamonds.

    On a positive note, we now find because we have a volume of properties and can offer a steady stream of work (and we pay promptly) we have built good long term relationships with contractors and have built up a good bank of reliable tradespeople. The landlords are also happy with the quality of work and the price as we don't add any commission - (our landlords can see the original invoices online.)

    The good guys are out there - you just have to find them.

    I always say to new contractors that if you are reasonably good at what you do, are polite, turn up when you say you will, invoice your original quote and clean up after you, you will easily be in the top 5% of tradespeople. I'm amazed at how many cannot do these simple steps!

    But I totally agree. On a project by project basis, it's annoying. The only reasonably reliable check is good old-fashioned word of mouth. But then you find the good guys are booked for months in advance.

    No easy answers on this one....

    Ed

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    LETS MAKE HOMES by treating landlords as partners, tenants as customers & every property as our own."

    http://www.letsmakehomes.co.uk

    I always pay straight away and I'm not stingy. I have a plumber that is reasonably reliable but that's about it. I put a lot of store in word of mouth but even then find most are unreliable.

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    In my experience you find the good ones by word of mouth, they don't advertise because they don't need to. An example being none of the good ones I use have any sign writing on the side of their vans.

    Also understand the problems they have with LL, one is not being able to gain access, they schedule jobs for LL only to turn up and find the tenant not in, if you want to keep the good ones work on ensuring this doesn't happen.

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    I make every effort to make their lives as easy as possible. I always turn up at the job and make sure they have easy access. I just wish they'd try and make my life a bit easier sometimes.

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    Several of my contractors are also my tenants who I have selected  because they do hands on  stuff that  I cant

    They keep me sweet and i keep them sweet .

     I keep top of their list whenever I  need a call out.

    I send a text message out  and I get a text back saying - No problem I will sort it

    The bonus is I will  often also get my/ their  places refurbed for free and they fix stuff if it goes wrong

    I often dont get to hear about it at the time. They just sort it with their skills. They don`t like to bother me

    They tell me only when they next see me   They like to tell me the technical stuff. I just listen and nod

    But yes time keeping and paperwork is not their strong suit . Drives me crazy

    But I hate to complain because if I upset them  when water is flooding somewhere or its minus 5 and a tenants got no heating then their power over me is incredible and they know that . I dont want them to go off on one . That`s why I bow and scrape to their every whim at these critical times

    But that also thats why  i take them on as tenants . Because my glove  compartment is also full of Sec 21`s 

    And Sec 21 `s is my trump card. I`ve never had to use it because of poor workmanship.  - But its there

    Its a power and control thing - sorry


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    Jonathan Clarke. http://www.buytoletmk.com

    I keep a list and I favour none of them

    I advise them never to rip me off or they will be of my list

    Don't Bite the hand that feeds you ??

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    Learn Change and Adapt ?????

    All comments are for casual information purposes only. If you wish to rely on any advice I have given please ensure you obtain independent specialist advice from a third party. No liability is accepted for comments made.

    Juggling jobs to chase the next payment is really common with subbies. We have encountered all sorts over the past 20 odd yrs. As mentioned above you need to have regular work to become important to these guys.

    Because it was so difficult we change to employing 3guys direct, a full-time all-rounder, a labourer and a part-time painter. we then bring in subbies for plastering, gas work, roofing and electrics.This works really well but obviously it means we need lots of work and its one of the drivers behind us having to constantly find new projects.

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    Phil Stewardson.

    Stewardson Properties.

    Stewardson Developments Ltd.

    Burson Land Ltd. & Jennings & Gilchreaste Ltd.

    http://www.stewardson.co.uk

    Follow me on twitter - @philstewardson