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Dear all,Having recently attended the Oxford Property Club meet to specifically hear Kevin speak I am seriously considering attending his course being run in two weeks time. I travelled to Oxford as I was unable to attend the Hampshire meet where he was the guest speaker last month.Some of what he will be covering I already know (what I know and what I act on have been two different things in some respects up to now) but there is plenty that will no doubt be new to me. More importantly I am really inspired by what he has done for charity; I first heard of him on Secret Millionaire and until recently I had not realised how successful he has been. Have any of you attended his wealth training or any training conducted by him and if so what were your thoughts. I have not put a link to his website as I would not want to be seen to be promoting his business, it can be easily found any way; I am only enquiring as to whether anyone has had experience of his training and if so what you thought of it?Thank you in advance.Steve
Steve,Are you going to show support for Green and his causes or are you going to move your business up a level?Assuming it is for your benefit and you expect to be more successful, what do you expect to learn that will make a difference to what you actually do?I am not against seminars as that is largely how I have learned. I also recognize that many who do attend seminars, including myself some of the time, will attend for social reasons or for reasons that have little to do with actually producing success.If you do attend and assuming it cost more than zero (all in costs), are you committed to producing more profits than the cost? If not can you afford to throw the money away as entertainment?We all spend money on entertainment so it is a fine way to spend your money. Just recognize what is motivating you and try not to believe your own BS about how the future will be different. I say BS as that is what we tell ourselves when we sign up. To prove it was not BS you have to apply what you learn and earn back a return on the 'investment'. If you do not it is not an investment.Good luck either way.John CoreyFollow me on Twitter-> https://www.twitter.com/john_coreyhttps://www.ChelseaPrivateEquity.com/blog
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John,Thank you for coming back to me; you pose some very good questions (no change there).I have always (as has my wife) wanted to help others less fortunate than ourselves and we do so already in small ways. Sponsoring children in different parts of the world to get an education, Sight Savers and other charities so I was very moved by what he did in Secret Millionaire and he continues to do great things. So yes I do want to show my support for what he does in that area and if I can get a place I will run the London Marathon again. When I did it last time (way back in 1990) a colleague and I raised enough money to get a young boy with cerebral palsy out to the Pito Institute where he took his first steps. To this day that is the most rewarding thing I have done and listening to KG speak has made me really want to do it again. That said I am obviously also going with every intention of moving my business up a level.Not wishing to simply list the topics he will be covering that I do not know anything/much about a big draw for me is to tap in to the mindset and contacts that will hopefully be made at the event. I attended a Christopher Howard event nearly 18months ago (that was free) and I came away from that really buzzing. I paid for some CH coaching for a few months but that did not really work for me as it was via skype with someone in the States; I hope to tap in to more hands on mentorship as a result of attending KG training.The buzz from the CH weekend fizzled out after about 3 months, life took over. Or should I say I allowed myself to fall back in to my old habits.I was really interested in what he (KG) had to say about social housing and that is something I intend to explore further as in the right situation it can be a safe investment that produces excellent returns but at the same time provides shelter for the most vulnerable. I am aware that it is not a straight forward investment strategy and will involve a lot of work but it is something I want learn more about.The cost is definitely more than zero at present (but Joanna may be able to help there) and that is why I have spent a lot of time discussing it with my wife, have spoken with one of KG’s mentees twice and am asking for comments here. Just discussing the pros/cons with my wife over the weekend has had some pretty dramatic results; I had been trying to sit down with her to talk about goals etc... for months and months. I will not bore you with the details on here; that can wait for when we meet next, but we are both looking forward to the next few years with a new focus and all being well things will work out how we want them to. I have no intention of treating it as entertainment and every intention of implementing what I learn from the event but the "proof of the pudding will be in the eating" of course.You are so right about BS, in fact quite a bit of what I have typed above you may view as BS. All I can say is that I am well aware of the fact that it does not matter what course I go on and what I say or write the only thing that will make any difference is the action I take.Only time will tell if it was entertainment or an investment but I am as convinced as I can be that it will be the later.Thanks again for your wise words.Steve
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I agree with you.I attended KGs free one day seminar yesterday in London and red flags started popping up from the start when I went to register.First I was asked if I will pay £49 to have lunch with him, then there was the organiser with a russian accent.The accent raised the red flag because I read about another wealth coach who trains people on trading and investment who was discredited by a journalist on Shareprophets.This journalist was sued by this coach and the coach lost so I thought surely KG will not be in cahoot with them. There was a lunch break and on my way back to the hotel, lo and behold there was this coach waving down a london cab.This put the final nail in the coffin. The seminar was full of hot air anyway and I couldn't wait for it to end having not picked up any useful tip.A few numpties were queuing to sign up for the three day training course at £2000 which I wouldn't take even if I was paid.
I already own a mortgage free rental property and was looking for information on how I could use it to add another one as I am looking to take early retirement in a year or two.
He talked endlessly about all his money, his yacht, his house in Antigua, his Aston Martin. He even got out his credit report to show how much he was in debt, plus flashed his Black credit card saying that we too could have one of those if we were as rich as him.
SteveI've heard a number of people speak on the property circuit, including Kevin Green and others. My own take on this is that's interesting to hear what they have to say and you may well pick up a golden nugget or two which helps you with your business. But you have to look at the statistics - how many people who attend these courses become millionaires? (if that is what they seek to achieve) The answer is - very few.So, as John says, what is the ROI once you have been on the course? If you spend £10 going to a networking meeting, its not a big deal but if you spend thousands of pounds, you need to be pretty certian that you will get VFM from your investment.You may get much better value participating in forums like this, joining a landlords association or reading an industry publication like Property Investor News. Above all, connecting with other property people and giving/taking with them may prove a far better ROI for you. And you can still give to charity if you do wellAdrian Standinghttps://www.juniperproperty.com
If I had a house and yacht in Antigua, I would be there Hell yeah!- not in a small hotel in a small village on a Thursday evening trying desperately to relieve people of £1800.00 for a training course. How much??? Thats truely incredible, that's not about giving back to others or sharing its about how many bums at £1,800 = lots of dosh!!Seriously, so much can be learnt on here and off forum through relationships founded here, its such a breath of air knowing that you're not going to get manipulated and to coin an NT phrase "Have your trousers pulled down"In my opinion, anything glitzy and "advertised" as a must see, mega/huge/can't be missed event should most definately BE missed unless as mentioned its either FoC or a nominal £10/£15 entry charge. Otherwise, the ROI must surely be negligable.RobSourcing genuine property deals in Wakefield and the Five TownsFollow me on Twitter @walkerfoxRead my blog https://walkerfox.wordpress.com/Skype: walkerfoxEmail: email@example.com 753550Yorkshire Property Tribe Next Meeting https://tiny.cc/e4gv8Adrian Standing said: