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    • Property-a-holics

    Key cutting machines

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    Bill_Morgan 3 Feb 2015 at 17:53
    Hi,

    I have decided to buy a key cutting machine as even a brand new one doesn't cost that much ie 343 pounds plus vat for a small potable one that does cylinder and mortice locks.

    I will get my money back in no time.

    Any one else had this idea?
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    MKlandlord 3 Feb 2015 at 18:10
    Hi Bill

    That idea never occurred to me...Big portfolio or HMO's perhaps.
    I assume as i pay £2.50 ish to have a key cut, it would not be worth it!

    Surely you would need so many different types of blanks?
    I believe the machines also need recalibrating quite regularly, well so
    says JP Locks in Wolverton who cuts all mine..

    Paul
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    Adam Hosker 3 Feb 2015 at 18:41
    Im keeping my fingers crossed for when NFC door locks become more available, "lokitron" from America looks good in this regard.

    You would have to cut over 100 keys; for it to pay itself off. Not including the cost of the locks themselves.

    I have read this before though; someone around these parts has their own key cutting machine.

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    Another idea is; an landlord I know replaced all the locks in his property. So that "one key" fit every lock in the property. When a tenant moved out, he replaced the locks with a backup set. He therefore rotates the locks/keys around the properties.. Has lots of copies for backup - and front/back door has same key which is a bonus.
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    ian2128038772 to Adam Hosker 3 Feb 2015 at 23:14
    (03-02-2015 07:41 PM)Adam Hosker Wrote:  You would have to cut over 100 keys; for it to pay itself off. Not including the cost of the locks themselves.

    Not true if you take time into account and the local key cutter is an effort to get to.

    However they are vendors that will set you locks with however many keys you require, so avoiding most key cutting.
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    Bill_Morgan 3 Feb 2015 at 22:23
    I spend about 100 pounds per year so I will soon get my money back and I can stick the machine in my van as it's portable and most of my locks are of the yale variety.

    Also it's very annoying when I get keys cut and they still don't fit.

    If I get a brand new machine it should do the job. Buying a second hand one is risky because it may lack accuracy and you wont get any warranty.

    This is the link to the one that looks perfect for me but I haven't phoned them yet.

    https://www.hickleys.com/diagnostics/tempest.php
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    Bill_Morgan to Bill_Morgan 17 Mar 2016 at 23:10

    Just to follow this up I did buy a key cutting machine called a sks cyclone and it was well worth it. It can cut the yale type key and the mortice variety.It cost 500 pounds second hand and it does need recallibrating every 4 months but that is easy.

    The blanks cost 20 - 40 pence depending on how many you order.

    I give tenants 2 sets of keys or more so they have a spare set if they lock themselves out.

    I can also test the keys straight away in the lock at the tenants home if I carry it in my van.

     Lock smiths charge just 6 pounds for one key in Malmesbury where I have a HMO and that is just extortion. Also if the key does not work after visiting a lock smith it gets really annoying so being able to test the key straight away is very useful and saves time.


    Many machines are sold second hand with a wide variety of blanks thrown in so I can cut most keys and then i just reorder when they run out.

    I have found a yale blank that seems to work in most yale locks so I use that blank 90 per cent of the time.

    Of course you need to have quite a number of tenants to make it worth it perhaps but i have no regrets.

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    Simon Alexander to Bill_Morgan 21 Nov 2017 at 14:48

    Hi Bill,

    With cost of keys just under £6 for cylinder and £7.50 for mortice I`m also considering getting a key cutting machine.

    I`m looking at a tempest machine which I remember was also your first choice but you went ahead and purchased something different. Was there a particular reason you didn't go ahead with the Tempest?

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