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  • Property-a-holics

    Rent a Room may need a Licence

    I attended a meeting for Landlords in Newcastle last night.

    The City Council sent two officers to show Landlords the new Additional Licence which will come into force 6 April 2020

    I was interested to see that all home owners undertaking Rent a Room will in some cases need a licence City Wide !

    From what I could see  is If a Home owner rents Two Rooms or more that will need the new Licence

    I am not sure if I have ever seen this before in the PRS?

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    Learn Change and Adapt ?????

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    I'm not sure that there is a legal basis for that, unless it is parallel for lodgers to the proposed change of a mandatory HMO to be "Four Occupants in 2 or more Households" that I heard talk of somewhere.

    It may have been in a Tory manifesto, or a bit of "look at me I'm also spanking landlords" virtue signalling by Theresa.

    I believe 2 or more lodgers is already an HMO, which I think needs a mandatory license, does it not? Or does that require 2 or more households?

    ML

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    i can only report what the council offers presented last night in Newcastle

    It was quite clear any Rent a Room operation with two or more lodgers will need a Licence

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    Generally speaking 3 lodgers will create an HMO but its not always the case.
    Enforcement of HMO licencing on owner occupier resident landlords is scarce at best. From my limited knowledge, it seems that councils aren't entirely sure what to do with them.
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    A good teacher must know the rules; a good pupil, the exceptions.

    Martin H. Fischer


    Newcastle City are recruiting staff to start enforcement

    and If I am correct they are going to come down strong with enforcement

    believe me they know what there doing

    They are copying a London Bough who has a reputation of heavy enforcement


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    Best of luck to the Newcastle City Council staff.

    I still find it difficult to work out who is living with me and who is staying with me or whether mine is their main home when its not their only home - all very important if HMO licencing is to be enforced.

    And then they have to work out the definition of household when the landlord is resident...

    (Aren't the London Borough's still struggling to enforce the 90 day rule - that seems quite simple in comparison)

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    A good teacher must know the rules; a good pupil, the exceptions.

    Martin H. Fischer


    I found it surprising that all home owners in the City who rent rooms are covered by this new rule

    Newcastle is quite a large City

    The Council have published Nothing on the website Yet and from what I can see very few understand what is happening

    I met a Large EA Property Manager yesterday for a coffee and he did not have a clue whats going on

    The Council are out for Blood If you had sat in with us at the Landlord meeting you would have seen a very Hard Face council

    I always knew Newcastle Council are anti Landlord and I was proved right

    They are not going to take prisoners they are out to make Landlords pay a lot of money

    and they will not be alone Just watch this space

    I will feed back the more I learn But I am lucky I am not effected by this personally

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    On the positive side, it may educate several million more people to the reality of landlord licensing.

    I love the prospect of all those Generation Rent campaigners needing a Selective License for their 2 flatmates, and the concomitant £750 fee !

    The whinging noise would be heard from Islington to Newcastle.

    F

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    I find it strange Generation Rent call landlords But when they buy a home they treat it first as a Home but then as an Investment

    I think most home owners view there home as an Investment one way or another


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    In most places I guess 2 lodgers would take rent over the extra Rent a Room allowance - so LL Licence would be an eligible tax offset - though still punitive.

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