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  • LHA/Universal Credit

    Rent top up not being paid ?

    I have a tenant on UC and i get a managed payment for the housing element. There was arrears previously and i was going to evict but the council stepped in and cleared the arrears, so i allowed tenancy to continue.

    Unfortunately the top up amount of £90 a month is not getting paid, the tenant seems to just bury their head in the sand and thinks that as long as the housing benefit is paid then that's good enough. I feel the only option here is to evict but am wondering if its worth trying to speak with the council to see if there is anything they can do to help, i would think after bailing the tenant out once they would be unlikely to do it again, but if i evict then it will be down to them to house them anyway i guess ?

    What do other landlords getting managed payments do in this situation ?

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    Totally contact council they may be entitled to a discretionary housing payment on top. 
    Resubmit UC 47 for additional arrears nip it in the bud asap
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    Why are they paying arrears no wonder uc tenants are a nightmare don’t pay and council will pay. Strange I won’t accept them anymore not worth the hassle and my local council are useless helped them out with a disabled person once never again
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    Hi

    Was it the Council or the DWP who cleared the arrears?  I have had terrible experience with the DWP - they seem to deliberately design the UC system to force landlords to evict by making it unworkable - they change their rules arbitrarily in a Kafkaesque way without notice.   My suspicion is that the more claimants who are evicted and go onto the LA's Emergency Housing Budget, the more money the DWP save from their budget although the emotional and financial costs of their (in)actions are huge.

    By all means try talking to the Council, but in my experience f you need to try and submit a claim to the DWP you will need to hire an expert consultant with back channel routes otherwise you will be wasting your time.  I had to do this.   At least you are getting the Housing Element.  That will stop without notice if they get arbitrarily sanctioned, or get a job, or realise that they can request that the DWP ignore the UC47.  If this happens then my understanding is that the current DWP policy is that they won't speak to you unless you have your tenant in the same room (good luck with that!!).    Of course it is all different if you are a Housing Association - but even they struggle.

    I wish that I wasn't so negative about this.  At the moment I would seriously think about leaving property empty for a few months, losing rent and paying Council Tax, etc than have a tenant who was on UC without an excellent guarantor.

    Gary

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    Council cleared arrears last time, quite a considerable sum equal to around 3 months rent. Discretionary payment i believe its called to keep tenant in property which i was happy enough with but the tenant just does not want and i also presume cannot afford to pay top up of £90 a month. The rental amount is actually quite reasonable and i believe i could definitely get more than what i currently charge.

    It is a tough position to be in as although the rent is short it is actually getting paid by way of managed payment and obviously there is a cost of eviction to consider as well as the stress involved.

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    I don't know what your position is.  But I would consider just taking the shortfall hit and hope that the tenant just moves on by them self.

    But this will depend on so many factors:  the current rental market, length of time that tenancy has been in place, how busy you are, whether you can can serve a s21 notice (which presumably you can) and whether bunging the tenant a couple of hundred quid to leave would work (and boy I know that I am going to get stick about that one!!).

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    I can see Bill Irvine's avert on my screen - I guess that he is sponsoring this forum.  He is a good guy whom I have swapped emails with and seems very knowledgeable.   His email is bill@ucadvice.co.uk.

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    Serve s8g10 TODAY: Yes, s8g10 may be validly served if only 1p is underpaid just 1 day.

    Explain to council that you will (eventually) evict & copy s8 to them.

    Verbally (only) explain to tenant what being "intentionally homeless" will be mean to them.

    Serve s21 as soon as valid.


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    I have a better idea WORKERS ONLY !... I have travelled all over Europe, have been a landlord 30 yrs+ it works
    everywhere but Uk !..  mm.... ?..
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