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  • Property-a-holics

    Report from the 4Walls Property Networking event - in 102 Tweets ... !

    Thank you to everyone who attended our fantastic event yesterday - our biggest turn out ever! It was an honour to have Penny Power and Thomas Power of Ecademy join us and share their thoughts on social media with the group.
    Below you will find the minutes of the meeting, as streamed live on Twitter. As Twitter only accommodates 140 characters, I have added other important points in bold to expand some of the ideas.
    This is the business language of the future. If you do not understand it, it might be a good idea to ask yourself why! One of the highlights of the meeting for me was Thomas Power talking about how heirachical institutions are being overtaken by networks, which in turn are powered by the individual. An living example of this is that, in the race to accumulate 1 million followers on Twitter, the actor Ashton Kutchner beat CNN Networks! The individual can react to change and embrace these networks far more quickly than institutions, so we are entering an era of the high tech cottage industry run by indivduals with specialist knowledge of their particular market niche. What are you doing to ensure that you can compete in this completely new business arena? And it's got everything to do with property, in case you think its not relevant to you!
    As Twitter is broadcast in real time, you will need to start at the bottom and read up!

    1. 4_Walls: Thanks to @john_corey for being our Twitter scribe today. #4wallmtg. Hot topics in property at http://www.propertytribes.ning.com and #4wallmtg!
    2. 4_Walls: Thanks SO much to @thomaspower and @pennypower from ecademy for turning up and supporting our networking event. #4wallmtg 4_Walls: WOW! Our best property networking event ever! 55 property-aholics turned up and share information. #4wallmtg
    3. SuButcher: Looks like The 4Walls Property/Social media networking event in Guildford was a hit #4wallmtg
    4. JGailNelson: catching up with tweets of 4walls meeting at #4wallmtg Great day with so many skills in one room. Thank you @NickTadd
    5. serkes: RT @John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG @4_Walls People buy people. They need to trust you. A bloke in a suit (banker)?
    6. findnetworking: RT @4_Walls: The 4Walls Property/Social media networking event in Guildford will be streamed live on Twitter at #4wallmtg
    7. SuButcher: RT @John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Politicians are like nappies (US translation -> diapers). They both need changing regularly for same reason.
    8. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Finding your voice? @thomaspower -> Individuals can now be more powerful than states, businesses and organizations. about 17 hours ago from iTweet The end of heirarchical organisations and the beginning of networks which will be driven by the rise of the individual.
    9. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Meeting is about to end. Those who want hands on training in Ning and Ecademy can huddle with @NickTadd Nick is running a social media training course to kick start your social media campaign on the 28th April in Guildford. Details here.
    10. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG @NickTadd Course on the 28th. Contact Nick for more info to join or to get alternative dates.
    11. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG 1 day course for non-geeks who want to learn how to use Twitter, Ecademy and other similar communities (7 on day) Nick is running a social media training course to kick start your social media campaign on the 28th April in Guildford. Details here.
    12. Gail asked if there was a course available to teach social media. Nick has one happening on the 28th April. A few places are left.
    13. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Rather than ask how you can find the time to be on a social network ask how you can contribute. Not 'use' Twitter, contribute to Twitter.
    14. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG When people look back this it is the birth of “humanity” networks. No place to hide, trust is everything - @pennypower John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Social networks are really humanity networks. -@PennyPower. Era of transparency where morals and ethics shine through.
    15. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG With 6+ billion people and only a few hundred million using Social Networking we are not even close to a tipping point. That is why the sooner you start engaging with social media, the sooner you start building your long tail on google, and the sooner you start to benefit. You have a chance to be in at the front end with this.
    16. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Ecademy has 5 employees. The network of Black Stars provides a lever to keep it growing. Ecademy has over 500,000 members in over 120 countries, yet only five people are employed. A business model of the future.
    17. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Networking = Collecting people, sharing people. Social media = Collecting knowledge and sharing knowledge. Collect, share, collect, share @thomaspower
    18. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG When a child today graduates they have a network of contacts AND a way to stay in touch or reconnect in the future. They were born digital so social media/networking comes naturally to them.
    19. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Children do not need to figure out how to make time to get into social networking. They just engage with it naturally.
    20. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Rise of the individual. The rise of individual capitalism. Given the age of the room look at your children. They are already ahead of you in the networking arena.
    21. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG It takes 30 years for technology to get integrated into society. 15 years since web was released.
    22. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG The world of protecting information / knowledge is over. @thomaspower
    23. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG People are not very good at collecting people and sharing people. The block relates to question: What is in it for me? @thomaspower
    24. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Social media is collecting information and sharing.
    25. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Open, random and supportive vs. Controlling, selective & closed. The old ways of running businesses are dead. Corporate mentality will not survive in Web 2.0.
    26. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Social networking is not the same as social media. Social networking is collecting/sharing people @thomaspower
    27. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Hierarchy is a closed model for networking. The Internet allows communication to be open, random and supportive.
    28. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Thomas Power, co-owner of Ecademy is now speaking @thomaspower.
    29. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Social media - embracing the random. Penny Power @pennypower.
    30. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Finding the time to be on Social Media platforms is normal 4 the younger users. Future-proof yourself, find time. @pennypower.
    31. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Penny Power, co-owner of Ecademy thinks @NickTadd & @4_Walls (Vanessa) are key people to know. We were overwhelmed when Penny said that out of 500,000 people on ecademy, we stood out as people who makes things happen and who have totally embraced the spirit of social media!
    32. John_Corey: RT @SuButcher: RT @glenngarnes: RT @SuButcher @John_Corey #4wallmtg agreed. No referrals w/out trust and integrity /Thanks Glenn. #4WallMtg
    33. SuButcher: RT @glenngarnes: RT @SuButcher @John_Corey #4wallmtg agreed. No referrals without trust and integrity /Thanks Glenn. Property meeting in UK
    34. SuButcher: @John_Corey: #4WallMtg How does the group get their planning advice at the moment? Is the process frustrating? how could it be improved? glenngarnes: RT @SuButcher @John_Corey #4wallmtg agreed. No referrals without trust and integrity. Build trust through your long tail on google and contributing to social and business networks.
    35. SuButcher: @John_Corey #4wallmtg agreed. No referrals without trust and integrity
    36. John_Corey: @SuButcher Thanks Sue for the RT #4WallMtg John_Corey: @SuButcher #4WallMtg #SMG The exposure from social networking -> spotlight on bad practices. Like a small community, we all know each other.
    37. SuButcher: @John_Corey re #4wallmtg property review: a good local architect will advise on likely planning benefits and produce info for cost/ben anal.
    38. SuButcher: RT @John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG @NickTadd explaining how social media is raising ethical standards.// interesting. There is an example here of how someone was caught out thanks to the transparency afforded by Web 2.0.
    39. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG MaryWaring.co.uk -> mortgage advice and other info for BTL investors. Podcasts and Transcripts. @MaryWaring Mary is running the London marathon for Shelter. You can sponsor her at http://www.justgiving.com/marywaring.
    40. SuButcher: RT @John_Corey: Any questions from UK property investors which can be addressed by the folks in the meeting today? #4WallMtg John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG @NickTadd Biggest frauds came from people wearing a suit as their standard attire? Is there a message about suits? John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG @4_Walls People buy people. They need to trust you. A bloke in a suit (banker
    41. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Founders of Ecademy have just arrived. They will be speaking to the group in a bit.
    42. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG 1st anniversary of these meetings. Group has grown from 10 to 55+ over that year. Our non-sales agenda is unique in the property world and keeps the discussion authentic.
    43. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Warren Buffett has a video on Social Media?
    44. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG We need a list of Twitter IDs so I can easily past in the IDs when someone speaks.
    45. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG People do not want to be on social media but they want the benefits for their business. Hiding is a bad strategy -> low trust.
    46. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG A suggestion to have a will and plan for the tax impact of creating weath from http://www.willsinsurrey.com.
    47. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG @4_Walls Announced a meeting next Saturday on UK holiday lets. Further details can be found here.
    48. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Some people have equity in their home and they wish to invest in property. Maybe for a holiday lets. Read about the renaissance of the great British seaside holiday here.
    49. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Second interior designer introducing themselves at today's meeting. @karen_tennant.
    50. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Maybe landlords would benefit from an affordable interior design service to make their props stand out from the crowd.
    51. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Dulux started an interior design service with franchise owners. One was here today – Jennifer Fynn.
    52. John_Corey: #4WallMtg @NickTadd had a lot of problems with ludlowthompson.com as a managing agent for his London properties.
    53. John_Corey: #4WallMtg @SurreyLets Please add some tweets on the letting industry legislation. The group will want to know more. Blog or forum John_Corey: #4WallMtg @SurreyLets Used to manage the back-end for property management. £12K salary cap for call centre people taking calls. (Discussing the poor service offered by many lettings agents to both tenants and Landords).
    54. John_Corey: #4WallMtg A bit of a debate on the good and bad aspects of estate agents who focus on lettings
    55. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG @4_Walls Google people and see what their tail is.
    56. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG I suggest that people favour sites where individuals expose this info so you get to know the individual.
    57. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG @NickTadd Lenders are checking mortgage brokers offering dodgy advice online. (The group were surprised at how some people openly talk on property forums about doing dodgy deals as lenders have forensic accountants who check this out.).
    58. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG @NickTadd explaining how social media is raising ethical standards
    59. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Long Tail being explained by @NickTadd John_Corey: #4WallMtg Property Investor News magazine being recommended by @NickTadd
    60. John_Corey: #4WallMtg Member of the group looking for advice on two fronts. Review of the present properties owned and how to expand portfolio. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG http://www.tweetlater.com/ is the fully qualified URL

    61. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG TweetLater to schedule tweets for release later.
    62. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Tax advice from @TaxHelpUKcom John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG @4_Walls explaining how your network refers their friends to you if they think of you for a product or service. The more niche your product or service, the better.
    63. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG @NickTadd You bank credibility by giving advice and info online with no expectation of returns. Give, not take. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Status updates can bring you business when people are interested in what you do.
    64. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Debt advisor attracts a lot of business thru social media (FB mostly)
    65. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Property advisor recommends @NickTadd for explaining how to get into social media
    66. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Like Obama showed through social media, people buy into other people first and then consider the business you represent.
    67. John_Corey: #4WallMtg When people have a recommendation for goods or services please post it to http://propertytribes.ning.com/ 4Walls want to create a community of trust, as trust is where business happens.
    68. John_Corey: #4WallMtg Effective marketing of a property really does improve when you have high quality shots of the property.
    69. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Andrew's photography being recommended to the group.
    70. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG British Library has a free course on copyright and IP. Highly recommended by Richard Francis
    71. John_Corey: #SMG #4WallMtg Photographer from the Reading area
    72. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Relish People realizes that she is a landlord given her 2
    properties in Prague’
    73. John_Corey: #4WallMtg SHAG - Surrey Homes And Gardens! John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG A quick overview of seller financing. Thread on Lease Options on the PropertyTribes forum.
    74. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Gail is here because she is curious and wants to avoid the housekeeping/garden.
    75. John_Corey: #4WallMtg Suggestion from the group. “Twitter-mercial” John_Corey: #4WallMtg Fearful when others are greedy, greedy when others are fearful - Buffett. Are you fearful or greedy right now?
    76. John_Corey: #4WallMtg @SurreyLets Statistics about properties on the market are misleading given properties are left on web but not on the market. . John_Corey: #4WallMtg Recommendation: http://www.skirtingbroads.co.uk/ for decorating with a mostly women crew in S London
    77. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Everyone should take a look at the Ecademy.com, join it and then join the Guildford sub-group on Ecademy John_Corey: #4WallMtg Folks at the group should take a look at http://www.upad.co.uk or http://www.upad.com
    78. John_Corey: #4WallMtg Inside Track grad who is sifting through the downside of the properties recommended by their sister company. BEWARE PROPERTY CLUBS! Read the Get Rich Quick discussion on Property Tribes for the reasons why.
    79. John_Corey: @SuButcher #4WallMtg Do you have any questions for the group?
    80. John_Corey: #SMG #4WallMtg @NickTadd is explaining mindmaps. He can comment on his view of social media which was the example
    81. John_Corey: #4WallMtg Doug is an accidental landlord
    82. John_Corey: #SMG #4WallMtg You can set up your own site (forum, etc) on Ning.com. It is free. http://www.propertytribes.ning.com is the 4walls forum.
    83. John_Corey: #4WallMtg @4_Walls With people living longer care homes could be a good focus for landlords. Check PropertyTribes for discussion John_Corey: #4WallMtg Hampshire Property Club - Interested in getting a Ning site set up. @NickTadd to help.
    84. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Some Twitter related URLs still available out there
    85. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG @NickTadd The turtle only moves forward when it sticks it's neck out.
    86. John_Corey: #4WallMtg Steven explaining how social media is starting to gain traction for holiday lets and with estate agents (Ireland, UK?). US def ...
    87. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Gail found person to review her online bookkeeping service thru Ecademy
    88. John_Corey: #4WallMtg @4_Walls wants me to speak to the group for a few minutes on lease options.
    89. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Create content to build a long tail when marketing your property.
    90. John_Corey: #4WallMtg Who goes to the High Street to book a holiday thru Thomson? 1 in room of 60. Rest search online
    91. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Going around the room for introductions.
    92. John_Corey: #4WallMtg @4_Walls commented today is a live version of http://propertytribes.ning.com/
    93. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Found rental tenant and a property for them - both found on Twitter. Real money from using Twitter.iTweet
    94. John_Corey: #4WallMtg @SurreyLets Joined 4 weeks ago at the last meeting and has not looked back since! Business is booming.
    95. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG You can search for a specific hashtag at: http://hashtags.org/tag/4WallMtg
    96. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG Notes from meeting available. Same for past meetings. Just search for the hashtag
    97. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG @NickTadd introducing the day. Explained how the meeting will be on Twitter.
    98. John_Corey: #4WallMtg #SMG If you are following the conversation and want to ask a question to the group or me just reply
    99. SuButcher: RT @John_Corey: #4WallMtg. Joint Ecademy & 4Walls property mtg about to kick off/ have a good one guys (childcare beckons)
    100. John_Corey: We will be using #SMG as the hashtag for the social media aspects of today's Ecademy Guildford joint mtg with 4 Walls (property) #4WallMtg
    101. John_Corey: #4WallMtg. Joint Ecademy & 4Walls property mtg about to kick off about 21 hours ago from Tweetie
    102. 4_Walls: The 4Walls Property/Social media networking event in Guildford in association with ecademy will be streamed live on Twitter at #4wallmtg
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    Hi everyone,
    Really sorry not able to attend the event yesterday, but interesting to read the tweets as they came in.
    I missed this one:
    83. John_Corey: #4WallMtg @4_Walls With people living longer care homes could be a good focus for landlords. Check PropertyTribes for discussion
    I've been looking for the discussion but can't find it. Anyone care to point me in the right direction?
    Also,
    Following on from the comments on successes, a contact of mine is preparing a conference for B2B Magazine in the autumn and is looking for case studies. I'd be very keen to hear examples of Business-to-Business success with Social media (he's definite it can't be Business-to-Consumer e.g. Landlord-tenant) - but option for some promotion perhaps?
    Su
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    Hi Su,
    Great to have you on Property Tribes! Thank you for your support of our efforts.
    Here is the thread about trends in property:
    https://propertytribes.ning.com/forum/top...omment3093
    Always love to be interviewed and we can talk about social media success B2B , no problem!
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    Would also recommend Sally Aisling of Surrey Lets who has had success.
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    Hi Vanessa,
    Is your twitter handle @4_Walls or do you also have a private one? I'd like to introduce @rosssturley to you.
    Always love to be interviewed and we can talk about social media success B2B , no problem!
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    Hi everybody
    Well we were thoroughly fascinated with the diverse backgrounds of people attending the meeting, such a wealth of knowledge and experience in the room to be tapped into which was echoed really well by the whole mindboggling topic of social networking and the use of these tools on the web.
    I thought I knew a lot about web based networking but I now realise I've only just hit the tip of the iceberg, and I'm going to have to orientate myself to getting so much more involved in this aspect of communication. Looking forward to it and very much enjoyed the event which was a very positive experience for us.
    Thank you Nick and Vanessa!
    Tanya and Angela
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    Vanessa, thanks for this - (and my extended thanks to john for tweeting this out)
    I cannot quantify this next statement - but I felt on Sunday, as though this is the start of something MUCH bigger. When I look at what 4Walls offers, and the dynamics in the room on Sunday, I can only feel in the pit of my stomach that this is going to explode into something bigger, stronger and more powerful. I cannot pin point what it is, maybe its the fact that everyone has a connection to property, everyone is starting a journey into social media and excited or whether the vibe is just captivating. I think joining with ecadamy was a great idea as it widened the net of experts. I am already looking forward to the next one and speaking to people that I did not have time to speak to on Sunday. Thank you to the people who have since contacted me to make 121's as well.
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    Hello Tribe,
    I really got a lot out of Sunday - especially contacts. I've had a personal message from Penny Power and really felt like I met /re-engaged with some people I have the feeling I'll be seeing a lot more of.
    This is good networking in action and it's taken me a long time to really understand what it can do for me - that's not anyone's fault - just the process of unbending from corporate life and building my own 'long tail'.
    It's starting to happen and these meetings manifest this change in one of the most positive ways I've seen so far (that's why we're on our first anniversary with them).
    Let's all keep this pure to philosophy and we'll all emerge with all the right skills and reputations ready to face anything the third millennium will throw at us and emerge in a good strong position.
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    Hello everyone
    Well sunday was my first meeting and in spite of the lovely weather I enjoyed it very much. I was impressed by the diversity of the group and the wide range of skills and experiences eveyone had. I am quite new to networking but I can see it being a positive thing not only for contacts but as someone who works from home (albeit a nicely decorated home office) it can sometimes get lonely and so the opportunity to meet new interesting people is exciting.
    I was so enthusiastic about ecademy that I went onto it later that night and read all the testimonials and decided that I have to be a part of this. Sooooooooo watch this space. Now as for Twitter - I think I need more help!!
    I will definetly being seeing you all at the next event.
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    Jennifer,
    Think of a Twitter as a party that started before you got there. You join conversations that interest you. If they do interest you it is highly likely you have something to contribute. Leave the conversation when it is time for you to go. The party will roll on and it will be there when you come on back.
    A cocktail party with mostly strangers, some of whom share your passions.
    A suggestion is to search for specific topics that really grab you and then reply to what others are saying. If interior decorating is your thing that is something you can search for.
    John Corey
    https://www.ChelseaPrivateEquity.com/blog
    Jennifer Fynn said:
    Hello everyone Now as for Twitter - I think I need more help!!
    I will definetly being seeing you all at the next event.
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    John Corey 


    I host the London Real Estate Meet on the 2nd Tuesday of every month since 2005. If you have never been before, email me for the 'new visitor' link.

    PropertyFortress.com/Events

    Also happy to chat on the phone. Pay It Forward; my way of giving back through sharing. Click on the link: PropertyFortress.com/Ask-John to book a time. I will call you at the time you selected. Nothing to buy. Just be prepared with your questions so we can use the 20 minutes wisely.

    Hi everyone
    Is social networking like a verylarge village? I came from a village where everyone knew you, or knew someone who knew you. As a child I was aware that anything that I did my family would hear about sooner or later or even sometimes before I got home! This new world is reminding me of this.
    After Sunday's meeting I received an email from someone who had read an email from Vanessa and noticed that I had been there. This contact said that she was sorry that she could not make this meeting but hoped to meet with me at the next one. I have never met this person but the email was worded to me as a friend. We now know each other.
    When I started to develop my new online business I could see how technology was changing the business world and in my opinion for the better. I had not realised the social implications. Now I am looking for that 6 year old to help bring me up to date with the new ways.
    Sunday was a terrific day. Thank you to Nick and Vanessa for ,making this possible.
    Gail
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