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  • Property-a-holics

    Simon Zutshi's mastermind mentors

    I have not been able to find out on the net what mentors are part of Simon's team and are made available to those doing the mastermind course...

    Does anyone know here?
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    Hi
    The mentors are chosen to suit the person who is doing the Mastermind course. I don't believe there is a list of them on the web. Are you interested in doing Mastermind?
    Cheers
    Spike
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    (16-04-2014 05:58 PM)spike_reddington Wrote:  Hi
    The mentors are chosen to suit the person who is doing the Mastermind course. I don't believe there is a list of them on the web. Are you interested in doing Mastermind?
    Cheers
    Spike

    Spike, yes I would imagine they would be suited to the person but do you know who they actually are?
    I am not thinking of joining yet.

    (16-04-2014 07:52 PM)frank_rizzo Wrote:  The Guy,
    Keep your money in your pocket.

    Thanks..going off topic but er why (and not that I am thinking about taking it out...money that is)
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    Go to your local property networking event each month (there WILL be one close to you), subscribe to YPN, read plenty of property books and forums such as this one.

    You will learn plenty and will save yourself thousands!

    To be fair, I do believe that these type of mentorship programmes can offer people motivation and confidence to get out there and actually do it, but in terms of the route to take and the strategies to property success, you can learn that from the above list.

    It costs me £20 per month to go to my local PIN event, £7 per month for YPN magazine and maybe £15 every now and then on the next book.

    I have also spent the odd day here and there with people who have made it work ((Thanks Kim) and Deena if you're reading)) and they are probably the most valuable things that I've done in terms of education. I'd love to spend a day with Jonathan Clarke if he's reading...

    I'm sure there's plenty of people that have done well having attended expensive mentoring programmes, but if you're determined, there are plenty of people that can and will help you for the cost of lunch!
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    Thanks Martin if JC up for meeting you I would be happy to buy you both lunch..
    Kim.
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    I have no idea who the 'mentors' are that are part of the program. As someone else said, it is likely they change over time based on any number of factors.

    1. I recommend people read books to start. Very inexpensive and they tend to be organized with a start and finish rather than just posts online. Be careful to read a number of different books as a few are mostly long sales copy.

    2. Use online forums. You can get to know who knows what on specific topics. You can also find people in specific markets or locations who you can later meet.

    3. Use networking meetings to meet others. When there is a speaker, ask the people in the room for their views during the break. Expect that some will be very positive about a speaker while others are just negative about most things. The key is to collect various views and to start to understand how others do their due diligence.

    4. Buy lunch or breakfast when you want to spend 90 or so minutes 1 to 1. For the cost of a meal you can get dedicated coaching time. Come prepared with a number of questions and consider not eating yourself while you take notes. It is very inexpensive and most people with a few years of experience will have useful stories to share. You do not have to like them as you are not there to build friends. You just want to broaden your perspective, pick up specific advice and otherwise understand more than when you arrived. If you scheduled 12 meals over a year you could have an interesting journey with limited cost in terms of time or money.
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    John Corey 


    I host the London Real Estate Meet on the 2nd Tuesday of every month since 2005. If you have never been before, email me for the 'new visitor' link.

    PropertyFortress.com/Events

    Also happy to chat on the phone. Pay It Forward; my way of giving back through sharing. Click on the link: PropertyFortress.com/Ask-John to book a time. I will call you at the time you selected. Nothing to buy. Just be prepared with your questions so we can use the 20 minutes wisely.

    There is an excellent and more detailed post along those very lines John.

    Routes to success
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    BTW, to highlight the other side consider this.

    1. I know a number of people who have been on this program and they were successful. More than the program cost them and the benefits keep happening.

    2. I know a larger group who were not so successful. To a person, they explain that they did not work as hard as they needed or that they took the program too early in their journey. The later comment means they were too green and it will take more than a year before they will produce large results.

    3. I know people who have spent similar money on similar programs from other companies. Pretty much the same results. Some do well, more do OK and others find it was a waste of their money yet maybe more of an own goal than anything else.

    I have not met anyone who has done 2 or more of the programs. As the successful folks have only completed the one program from what ever vendor, they tend to recommend the one they know. Would you expect them to do anything else?

    A fair number, maybe the majority who I speak to, of the people who have been successful will say that the programs are expensive. You will not get back your investment unless you have large success. Let be clear about this. People sign up for large success and therefore the vendors are pretty much charging a large sum and promoting a large success is possible. It is a large bet on yourself.

    Putting all of this in context, I when to university in the USA where spending a lot of money to earn a degree with no short term income is the goal. When my children attended a few years back the number was as high as $50,000 a year in costs minus financial aid if the student qualifies. How valuable the university degree is after 4 years is unclear. The odds and the trend is on the side of the university graduate yet there are many exceptions.

    If you do not see multiple ways you will receive value, do not spend the money. You can spend it later when you are more sure. None of the programs are going to say no later if you want to sign up then.

    Even if you think it is the right decision to sign up, pause and delay the decision. The offers will not go away. Get over the emotional urge to dive in. See what you can accomplish using the other suggested means in this thread and then re-evaluate. Consider the programs a way to boast what you have already accomplished rather than the start of something you have no experience with.

    I have a rule. If I buy a program, I want to find a way to earn 2x back before I am 'allowed' to buy another program. A great way to think at events when each speaker has a 'must have' program to buy. Most of the time you will find another way to access the info without spending the money. Or the one thing you do buy will be the singular focus of your attention until you have mastered it and paid yourself back.
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    John Corey 


    I host the London Real Estate Meet on the 2nd Tuesday of every month since 2005. If you have never been before, email me for the 'new visitor' link.

    PropertyFortress.com/Events

    Also happy to chat on the phone. Pay It Forward; my way of giving back through sharing. Click on the link: PropertyFortress.com/Ask-John to book a time. I will call you at the time you selected. Nothing to buy. Just be prepared with your questions so we can use the 20 minutes wisely.