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  • Buy-to-Let

    Tenant fiddled with the electric ...

    Hi Everyone

    My tenant has fiddled with her electric and British Gas have found out. They have ripped the meter out leaving her without Electric.

    She has 7 kids one being just over a year old.

    She has told me gas board has asked for 1400 to reinstall and she hasn't got it. Her kids are sleeping at her parents house.

    I'm fuming with her and should evict her straight away but i have a lot going on at the minute and could do without the stress as my dad has took very ill abroad and can't get home.

    All i need is to find out if there's anyway for them to put the meter back in without cost so I can get this off my mind so i can concentrate on the things that matter to me.

    As I say i'm wanting her evicted but just now now as the house is in such a state and gonna take months to put it right.

    Thanks

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    'She told me gas board want £1400'  Why don't you ask the gas board yourself?  The tenant is clearly untrustworthy.

    Personally I would just get on with the eviction, whatever else is stressing you it won't help having this in the back of your mind.

    Knowing you are pushing forwards following proper procedures is best 

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    Hi

    Sorry to hear about your situation.  

    Not sure that British Gas are legally allowed to do this even if she has fiddled her electric, as she has young children.  Refer to this article:https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/consum...connected/

    I think they also have to offer a repayment plan before disconnection or at the very least put her on a pre-payment meter.  She doesn't sound particularly trustworthy and as per the comment above your first step should be to speak to British Gas yourself.

    It sounds like you do need to evict your tenant, but in the short term getting her reconnected should be a priority as should concentrating on the things that matter to you most.  At the end of the day money is not as important as your family and their health, an yours.

    Wishing you all the best x

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    Thank You for both Reponses and kind words.

    I will ring British Gas tomorrow to see what they can do as  need this main problem out the way for now and deal with her later as need her gone.

    When she new she wasn't getting anywhere she had the cheek to call environmental health to say the house was unfit to live in and me the landlord was putting her children's life at risk damn cheek considering she could of blew them up. Honestly the mentality of some people but she is now blaming me saying cant go back to house because of the repairs needing done and she's getting her kids took off her through me. 

    The repairs are kitchen sink unit dropped which was reported and arranged to do but she said she wanted kids back at school first

    she said damp but its condensation when you have no garden or line and just a tumble drier for 9 people the walls are gonna get wet especially if you don't open windows and curtains closed and keep everyone's clothes stacked up against the wall.

    She said she want enviro out so she can get another house so i'm gonna ring enviro tomorrow and give them the full story as they seemingly don't come out now unless there paid which is always a landlords advantage providing your not a rogue landlord which I'm clearly not



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    Regardless of how unreliable or honest your tenant is, suppliers cannot stop supplying, especially to a vulnerable family.

    They should install a pre-payment meter as a first step. But it would appear she has committed fraud, so simply agreeing a repayment plan (which she can't pay) will be the least of her worries.

    I can't understand how Social Services have allowed a woman to live with her 7 children with no means of supporting them.

    She and her children are clearly vulnerable, and I suspect the next move will be to place them into care.

    We on this site are fortunate in many ways, regardless of the problems we may have with tenants. But it is not our responsibility to support them. Eviction must be your next step. This will force Social Services to get involved.

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    Meter would have been removed on safety grounds, when its a key meter usually tenants put a “jump wire” across the meter, this works ok until any credit on the meter has gone then all current goes across the “jump” and it burns out, whilst there is credit on the meter only a portion of the current flows along the “jump”.

    If its a standard “credit meter” it just carries on as some current goes each way as the meter never trips off.

    Many years ago a fellow landlord had the same problem, tenant complained to council who threatened to prosecute the landlord for not providing electric, electric board would’nt reconnect anything other than a standard credit meter but only with a substantial upfront payment, fire service backed up the electric co., in the end social services paid the electric board and agreed to guarantee future bills for that tenant.
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    I would not involved in any conversations with British Gas, this is completely her problem and not yours in terms of the supply to the property.

    I would also serve immediate notice for breach of lease.

    Your not going to get paid for the last couple of months but you need to have the property back, what else has she been doing that you don't know about.

    I'm sorry to hear about you father, these things always seem to happen together. If you don't have time have a solicitor issue the paperwork, it will be money well spent.

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    Suspect the tenant hasn't told you the full story: Utility supplies wouldn't normally do this.  Any evidence of Cannabis farm?

    Think I'd explain to tenant you are keen to get things sorted but would she please first put in writing/email what happened & what she'd done.  Think she had a "friend" who did the fiddling.

    Were it me I'd 'phone council to explain what you've been told so she gets the right priority (zero..) for assistance & rehousing.

    Not keen on cheats, be they tenant, agent, landlord, MP, PM.../

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    Not your problem.

    She committed a crime. You can not be held responsible for energy supply.

    Why do you even think it is down to you ?
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    No gas she is likely to move herself out to get her kids back so she can get her benefits. I would make social services aware
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    If there has been a canmabls farm at a property the service is normally disconnected from the footpath outside.  However if it is a block of flats that isn't an option.  It thought disconnection for non payment is usually done by simply removing the main cut out fuse.

    I agree with previous comment that you shouldn't get involved with Britisgmh Gas.
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