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    Tragic events unfolding in training sector

    It is with deep sadness that we learned today that a mentee of a high profile trainer (who's name cannot be mentioned here due to another on-going issue) has taken his own life.

    Danny Butcher had only been married for three months and took out credit cards and loans to the tune of £18K to start his property journey with a trainer who made a lot of promises - but did not fulfil on them.  A refund was also apparently refused.

    Sadly, on Saturday, Danny made the decision to take his own life.

    Property Tribes has the following statement from his widow, Charlotte:

    "Danny and I talked so much this week and I said we would find a way through it, we would chip away at the debt and look at our position again in a year.

    We made a plan as to how we would realistically do that and still on Saturday night he made the decision to do what he did. You can't take a decision like that back.

    If we can just stop one person in the the same situation from doing what Dan did after reading his story and make him realise there is always another option, then he won't have died in vain".

    There is a Facebook discussion on-going >>> here. 

    I am sure that the Property Tribes community would wish to join with Vanessa and myself in sending Charlotte and Danny's family our most sincere and deepest condolences.

    There are plans to set up a JustGiving page to support Charlotte and I will let this thread know when it is live.

    *Moderator edit:  Just Giving page now live.

    Obviously, emotions are very raw, but I have to ask that, until further notice, the name of the trainer not be mentioned here on Property Tribes.

    The "wealth creation" industry is totally unregulated and we join Charlotte in hoping that Danny's death might be a catalyst for positive change.


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    general operations director, site owner and moderator - propertytribes.com

    Heartbreaking. Condolences to his wife and child.
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    Has the just giving page been set up yet?

    Danny was such a top bloke I had no idea he was thinking of doing this. He didn't give any hint what so ever not one. He showed no sign we chatted on the phone and he seemed resolute and upbeat about getting his money back. We all have to reach out - its nothing to be ashamed of messing up or feeling embarrassed at being scammed.

    I feel numb for his poor family. RIP

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    Thank you for your thoughts Daniel.  I will up-date the thread with the JustGiving page as soon as it has been created.

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    general operations director, site owner and moderator - propertytribes.com

    In this instance the training provider should be named.  These people take advantage of vulnerable people promising the world and deliver nothing 

    If they were so good why don’t they concentrate on there business without trying to train others
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    It's not difficult to figure out given the link to the Facebook Group in the opening post. Property Tribes to some extent has to think about itself and what it publishes.

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    My posts are not financial advice, just a rambling guy passing time on a coffee break.
    The team at Bespoke Finance offers advice, including Limited Company Buy-to-Let , HMO Conversion and Cheap Life Insurance.

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    FYI there is a very good reason why names are not being mentioned. This is due to another 'event' that happened a while ago which is under investigation.

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    general operations director, site owner and moderator - propertytribes.com

    We have (*Moderator note:  word removed*) who operate in our sector

    Men and women who sell a dream of riches. They  are very good at selling the dream

    But they turn lives in to nightmares

    They do our sector no favours ?? They are the Face of Greed which the public sees and tars us all with the same brush

    I would like to see a cull of this scum

    Not all that is glitters is gold  and this bunch are not selling gold - Just a form of Fool's Gold

    We have regulation for Managing agents? its now time for Sources to be Regulated too

    I am in the Business of providing good homes and I class it as my Job

    The by-product of running a good Business is wealth

    DL

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    Learn Change and Adapt ?????

    All comments are for casual information purposes only. If you wish to rely on any advice I have given please ensure you obtain independent specialist advice from a third party. No liability is accepted for comments made.

    Condolences to his family and friends, terrible news. 

    Sometimes it can seem to be the only way out, but there's lots of help out there these days if anyone is in a similar situation. Organisations like Citizens Advice, Step Change, Debt Advisory, Mind and Mental Health are available to assist.
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    That is terrible news. My thoughts and I am sure everyone's will be with Danny Butcher's family at this very sad and difficult time.

    Wise words from Derek Tsang for anyone in similar situation, seek help.

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    My posts are not financial advice, just a rambling guy passing time on a coffee break.
    The team at Bespoke Finance offers advice, including Limited Company Buy-to-Let , HMO Conversion and Cheap Life Insurance.

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