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  • Buy-to-Let

    UKIP and Landlords and a protest vote



    I am far from being a supporter of any political party, but from what I can see from the political mess the country is in, UKIP may take advantage of Council Elections and win.

    The vote from the public could be used to show Labour and Tories what they really think of their efforts.

    We, as landlords, are effected by councils and if UKIP came to power in your council, would it have large effect on your business?

    What is the view of UKIP for the PRS?  Would we be any worse off if they were to take council seats?

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    Hello Dislexic_Landlord

    So far as I am aware the only council in the UK controlled by UKIP Thanet Borough Council changed hands some months ago with the Tories now the majority party following some defections from UKIP. It took UKIP several elections to be in a position to take control of that council. It is of course possible that UKIP may be alble to take control of councils if some Tories defect post election. It is difficult to gain sufficient seats 'in one go' because of the amount of canvassing and organising that has to be undertaken. So any party tends to win some seats and then use control of those seats to increase its presence in adjacent wards over time. That has been my experience to date.

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    The election cycle for some councils is changing. Ward boundaries started changing last year, and some will this year. That means "all out elections", i.e. all seats up for election at the same time. So for those councils, its a fixed 4-year cycle. Some may still have the thirds-thirds-thirds system, but expected to change.
    It is now possible to gain enough seats in one go to take control - but is a lot of hard work. I'm in a council that did just that last year wholesale shift from two-third majority Tories to two-thirds majority LibDems.

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    Hello Tumi


    I agree with much of what you write. The comparisons that you make are correct and I would not wish to argue them. The point that DL was making was with UKIP and I replied basis UKIP. Your comparison is with the LibDems taking control of a council or councils from the Tories, which is not the same thing at all. The LibDems have a long and honourable track record of providing majority party local government, in parts the country, from time to time. The point that I was responding to from DL was that UKIP do not. To the best of my knowledge UKIP have only had a majority in one council, Thanet Borough Council in Kent. So the point that I was responding to, was effectively, 'what.do you think the chances are of a wholesale takeover of councils by UKIP'? I think that the chances are low for the reasons I gave. My view is that unless there are significant changes in the national political scene in the next couple of weeks the Tories will lose a very significant number of seats on councils throughout England and Wales for two reasons, firstly because the of national picture. Brexit has been handled wholly incompetently by a Conservative Prime Minister and secondly they hold a record number of local government council seats which really leaves them only one way to go and that is down. The Conservatives are likely to lose seats wholesale.

    The second point that DL made related to UKIP and their policies relating to the PRS. In Thanet UKIP was one of the first councils (I believe the first in Kent) to bring in PRS Licencing. I do not believe that UKIP present the same threat to the PRS that I perceive that the Labour and Green parties do if they gain majorities on councils. I think the point that you make is correct and that is that the effects of boundary changes have the propensity to make significant changes far more likely and I agree with that, but I do not believe that this will bring many more UKIP controlled councils because unlike the LibDems and Labour, they are not presently 'well organised' or sufficiently widespread on the ground in local government.

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    Hi Derek,

    Sorry if my reply confused the matter. I was responding specifically to the comment "It is difficult to gain sufficient seats 'in one go' because of the amount of canvassing and organising that has to be undertaken. So any party tends to win some seats and then use control of those seats to increase its presence in adjacent wards over time". The example I gave was to show it now can happen in one go.

    I have no knowledge of UKIP policies.

    Agreed, the Tories will lose seats on a large scale. Canvassing on the doorsteps show a lot of anger both from leavers and remainers against them.


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    Instead of a voting for a one policy party, why not vote for the LibDems? They are extremely good at local politics.

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    I chat to quite a lot of folk Dom in my area

    and I have never seen such bad feeling towards the govt I think even labour supporters are fed up and i think they will turn to UKIP the libs are a stay party so I don’t think the NE  will vote for them

    i really fear the likes of Tommy Robinson comming to power but this is where we are going at present he is classed as a hero by the white working class in the east end of newcastle

    a lot of frustration out there Dom with labour and the tories

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    Hi DL, yes, I agree regarding the general frustration. However, voting for a party that only cares about immigration only emboldens the likes of Tommy Robinson.

    The LibDems are the only credible alternative to the big two. Do NOT vote UKIP or Brexit Party. That WILL cause massive problems in this country.

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    That’s what I fear Dom

    this is not over and it’s all down to the currant politicians we have

    they all think there clever with the exit

    and this has the potential of splitting the country in half with the likes of UKIP takeing advantage of the frustration out there

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    and this has the potential of splitting the country in half with the likes of UKIP takeing advantage of the frustration out there

    Nothing will happen.

    The Remainers will not do anything because they have to get back before Waitrose closes and Tommy Robinson supporters won't do anything because they have to get back to their bedsit in Romford to smoke Weed.

    Only really scary outcome is Corbyn getting in but that was a risk regardless of Brexit.

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    I don’t think 17milliion all smoke weed

    and that’s my point


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    All comments are for casual information purposes only. If you wish to rely on any advice I have given please ensure you obtain independent specialist advice from a third party. No liability is accepted for comments made.